IrishHitman 21:47 10-11-2014
Originally Posted by
QuintusSertorius:
In the meantime, cavalry have been tweaked in my unofficial hotfix. I'm assuming you haven't made much use of Akontistai/Euzonoi, or Hippakontistai, because they've all been fixed so that they actually work, too.
I'll have to look at that, javelin troops seem very underpowered to boot.
Originally Posted by :
As for the hetairoi, I get your position, but we had even considered making them exclusively a bodyguard unit. Making them recruitable at such a high level was basically a compromise solution. And it'll be more palatable when we get shielded cavalry added.
Hetairoi are my favourite unit is all, having them on the roster as an independent unit at all is good enough. Besides, it gives me a lot of motivation to claw my way up the government and building trees with haste.
QuintusSertorius 22:07 10-11-2014
Originally Posted by IrishHitman:
I'll have to look at that, javelin troops seem very underpowered to boot.
It's not so much underpowered as "won't throw their javelins". Have a look at how much ammunition Euzonoi, Akontistai and Hippakontistai have left at the end of a battle, compared to Thureophoroi or other precursor javelin-users.
IrishHitman 22:13 10-11-2014
Never really paid attention to if they were throwing their weapons or not, was too busy micromanaging phalanx movements and cav charges. It does go a long way to explaining why they weren't killing much though.
bisthebis 09:16 10-12-2014
Originally Posted by :
As for the hetairoi, I get your position, but we had even considered making them exclusively a bodyguard unit. Making them recruitable at such a high level was basically a compromise solution. And it'll be more palatable when we get shielded cavalry added.
I'm glad to have recruitable hetairoi, so I can have an elite cav on each flank without putting 2 generals. Obviously, if a player puts 5 hetairoi by army it's too much easy, but having 1 unit is pretty reasonable.
About others cavalry, are you talking about lonchophoroi ? Thessalikoi ? Prodromoi ? (In these, AFAIR, only lonchophori is shielded though)
I can't wait !
IrishHitman 01:44 10-13-2014
The recruitment rate for hetairoi is so low that you're not going to be able to field 5 in one army unless you contrive to have none in other armies, unless we're talking family members.
bisthebis 17:57 10-13-2014
It depend of the country and the time in the campaign. Seleukeia starts with 2 basilike patris fro example., and on latter stages it becomes easier to build them
IrishHitman 18:10 10-13-2014
Originally Posted by bisthebis:
It depend of the country and the time in the campaign. Seleukeia starts with 2 basilike patris fro example., and on latter stages it becomes easier to build them
Seleukid players have to deal with multiple fronts that are geographically dispersed, so they need the extra capability for heavy cav production anyway.
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