Ukraine Thread

[Brenus]

“Well, I never said any of that, at least nine months ago” So, that makes you a Putin lover…

Well that symbol doesn't actually look a lot like the Wolf Cross, does it? Nope, it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_SS_...sion_Das_Reich

“Turn it around - the French have been electing lots of Nazi's and Fascists over the last few years” And? I will even play my Gilrandir and arguing about figures (2 MP in the National Parliament!), there is actually and in a recent past no openly Nazi in the French Government. And there are no official political parties openly claiming to be Nazi. And even if, that wouldn’t be an excuse.

“Well, you have no excuse for being pro-Russian in this context” This was answered by someone else.

“GAVE THEM ALL THE POWER (as you claim it)” Lies.

“One might as well claim that France has a Nazi past.” And one might be right. The difference between the nations who love Nazi and the none loving Nazi is that nor are the Germans or the French are proud of their Nazi, whereas in Ukraine they are now national heroes.

“Strategically, it has lost.” In keeping a harbour for its fleet, securing under-water pipelines and pushing potential NATO troops a little bit to the west? Few defeats like this and Putin take all Europe…

“to the besieged fortress state” You should follow more closely international politics. Without even mentioning China and India, USA and EU need Putin/Russia badly for Iran, Iraq, Syria and other little problems.
I think that the selling by Russia of AA missile to Iran is a “free” warning. Of course, it won’t really matter as everyone knows that Russian Material is crap as it is design and built by drunken corrupted stupid Russians in obsolete factories.