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    er....you are aware that "America First" is U.S. Jargon for quasi-isolationism, yes? Like most new first-term POTUSes, Trump is really focused on domestic concerns at the outset of his presidency.
    Yes. I am familiar with the jargon, but focusing in internal affairs does not make Trump a flower of democracy, now does it? I could post some of his jargon concerning women, minorities, media, torture etc. But i prefer not to post such language in this forum. There is a short path from populism to fascism and fascism is not restricted to Russia.Never has, never will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha View Post
    Yes. I am familiar with the jargon, but focusing in internal affairs does not make Trump a flower of democracy, now does it? I could post some of his jargon concerning women, minorities, media, torture etc. But i prefer not to post such language in this forum. There is a short path from populism to fascism and fascism is not restricted to Russia.Never has, never will.
    Virtually all of our political history mitigates against a shift into fascism. We have had our darker and harsher periods as a Republic, that cannot be denied, but our citizenry is too entrenched in their own liberties and too well armed to beget a dictatorship. Worst case with us is an aggressive single issue POTUS -- like Polk -- and those folks tend to last only one term. Are we trending a bit that direction at the moment? Perhaps, but the pendulum will swing back.
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    Virtually all of our political history mitigates against a shift into fascism. We have had our darker and harsher periods as a Republic, that cannot be denied, but our citizenry is too entrenched in their own liberties and too well armed to beget a dictatorship. Worst case with us is an aggressive single issue POTUS -- like Polk -- and those folks tend to last only one term. Are we trending a bit that direction at the moment? Perhaps, but the pendulum will swing back.
    Some American leftists now have a fear that Trump can somehow become autocratic, but the more somber caution that the real threat is of sliding into a one-party state. Then again, your rebuttal might be that by the nature of the attempt the white Republican base could not be suppressed simultaneously to avert their eventually agitating against an increasingly-disappointing nationwide incumbency.

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    To which the leftist retort would be that such an era would bring untold pain to their marginalized demographics and a transition away from a GOP state would not guarantee a transition away from (another flavor of) white supremacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Virtually all of our political history mitigates against a shift into fascism. We have had our darker and harsher periods as a Republic, that cannot be denied, but our citizenry is too entrenched in their own liberties and too well armed to beget a dictatorship. Worst case with us is an aggressive single issue POTUS -- like Polk -- and those folks tend to last only one term. Are we trending a bit that direction at the moment? Perhaps, but the pendulum will swing back.
    My friend. I am talking about Mr.Trump, not US as a state or nation. I personally find the comparison between the characters of Putin and Trump rather interesting. Thank the almighty that you do have checks and balances and hopefully Trump will come to understand the limits of his power.
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    Russia officially recognized DPR's and LPR's passports.
    https://www.unian.info/war/1784497-r...passports.html
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    It's today and Putin is a Fascist.

    Just in case anyone was wondering.
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    Have we moved so far that we may no longer refer to Eastern-European states as "post-Cold-War" or "former Soviet"?

    Cause "post-war" sure seems finished.
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    I'd say Post-War has now become a historical period, what with Germany having achieved political and economic hegemony over Western Europe and German comics using Hitler to make fun of Trump.

    The Cold-War is still very much reverberating through our lives though, witness Russian paranoia and the recent Romania protests against graft.
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