Ukraine Thread

[Gilrandir]

Soviets were neutral in 1939-1940 and their ports were open. German (and French or British) ships could enter those ports.

If you carefully read the linked part of the book (https://books.google.com.ua/books?id...rmansk&f=false) you will note that it was not just "entering a port" but using it as a base (Basis Nord) and even enlisting the help of Soviet ice-breakers to evade British navy. For which later Raeder personally thanked Kuznetsov.
But the Basis Nord issue wasn't the only evidence of the cooperation (collaboration?) in question. I have already said about guiding German bombers unloading above Poland, intense conatcts between Gestapo and NKVD, parade in Brest and so on.

http://www.atlassociety.org/tni/the-...communist-chic

The film shows footage of Russian and German military officers toasting each other, exchanging salutes at parties, and marching together in parades celebrating the conquest of Poland. When German bombers attacked Poland, radio towers in Minsk guided them; likewise, the Russian port of Murmansk served as the staging ground for the German invasion of Norway. The Soviet Union quickly became the largest supplier of resources for the Nazi war machine.

So the cooperation was more than what you would like to present.

"also, I'd like to point out that Brenus is incorrect":
It is not a legal entity.
Yes, you still have category claiming being part of Nobility, but it is not legal. I can write on my visit card if I had one I am the Count of what ever, no one can challenge or start legal proceeding as I am entitle to do so.

Illegal doesn't mean non-existent. Some/many Mexican immigrants in the USA are illegal. Do they not exist?
Social stratum can't be cancelled by laws. It is there as long as any representatives of it are alive and consider themselves as such. And it doesn't depend on the documents they have. There are still people who trace their origin from nobility of the past and thus hold themselves part of it even in such countries where decrees cancelling it were issued and/or modern state system has no place for them (Russia, Japan, Italy). Or some families of New England.
You might as well issue a decree that there is no such nationality as, for example, Jews, Tatars or Gypsies. Does it mean they will disappear?