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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Not really that weird. Because the regions are in limbo, so to speak, the ordinary people living there are hurt the most, regardless of their political affiliations or lack thereof. Anything that makes it easier for them is good.
    Attempts "to make it easier for ordinary people" (I greatly doubt that such was Putin's intention, though, - rather a statement of support for DPR's and LPR's leaders who are increasingly disillusioned in Russia) don't make the move logical. Recognizing documents written by those who aren't allowed to do that beats all legal considerations. It's like recognizing a note from a kid's mother that he was sick the day before so he didn't come to school as a medical certificate. It certainly makes it easier for the kid to skip classes (when he learns to ape his mother's hand).

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Serbia doesn't recognize Kosovo, but recognizes a quite a lot of document issues by Kosovo government and vice versa. It's basic decency. Even if political situation makes normal relations impossible, an effort should be made to make lives slightly "more normal" for people when possible.
    Invalid comparison. Serbia still considers Kosovo its territory. Does Russia consider DPR and LPR their part?

    If one reads Putin's decree carefully one would notice that it never uses the names of DPR or LPR. It speaks of "certain areas of Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine" never specifying what are those. Do they include those areas of Ukraine which are beyond the сurrent front line or those that were mentioned in the Minsk agreement (the latter states that Debaltsevo taken by Russians AFTER the agreement was signed is ostensibly a part of Ukraine-held territory)?

    Anyway, this recognition is de facto an end to the Minsk agreement.
    Last edited by Gilrandir; 02-22-2017 at 13:52.
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