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    It's November 21st and Validamir Putin is still a fascist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    It's November 21st and Validamir Putin is still a fascist.
    Oh come on, I can program my pocket watch to give more intelligent replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Oh come on, I can program my pocket watch to give more intelligent replies.
    You assume the point is a well crafted statement
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    "It's November 21st". You've got the date right...
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    I'm just interested - what's the point of spelling his name wrong every time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    I'm just interested - what's the point of spelling his name wrong every time?
    I assume Valid-Amir, that sounds like a cartoon character and amir is a high arab title of sorts.
    1. It makes him cartoonish and mocks him
    2. he's obviously a terrorist!
    3. The entire sentence is about brainwashing anyway
    4. Don't think, just hate Purten!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I assume Valid-Amir, that sounds like a cartoon character and amir is a high arab title of sorts.
    1. It makes him cartoonish and mocks him
    2. he's obviously a terrorist!
    3. The entire sentence is about brainwashing anyway
    4. Don't think, just hate Purten!
    Possibly, but overthinking Strike's statement is usually a wrong move. If it weren't for the exact same misspelling, I would have just assumed he is that disinterested or that he posted drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I assume Valid-Amir, that sounds like a cartoon character and amir is a high arab title of sorts.
    I concentrated on the first-part, assuming he means Vladimir Putin is Valid in his offensive-actions in the Ukraine with a historical reference to the Muslim Hordes, he thought it worked better than Valid-Tsar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Oh come on, I can program my pocket watch to give more intelligent replies.
    You, a high-tech Euroweenie Austro-Swede are still using a pocket watch? Now I know where to send all those old fobs I have lying around.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    You, a high-tech Euroweenie Austro-Swede are still using a pocket watch? Now I know where to send all those old fobs I have lying around.....
    Self defense reasons...

    I armed up rather massively since my little cultural clash some months ago. Steel chain pocket watch in one hand, 4000lumen flashlight with stroboscopic mode in the other, that can double as a baton, and a 45kg wolf to guard my rear and flanks...

    As it's a pocket watch, it doesn't count as a concealed weapon (eventhough it sure is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Self defense reasons...

    I armed up rather massively since my little cultural clash some months ago. Steel chain pocket watch in one hand, 4000lumen flashlight with stroboscopic mode in the other, that can double as a baton, and a 45kg wolf to guard my rear and flanks...

    As it's a pocket watch, it doesn't count as a concealed weapon (eventhough it sure is).
    One thing you still lack and that is a light saber. Too proud and trustful in weapons you are. Use the force that is within you.

    Meanwhile back to the topic.
    Girkin gave an interview to the Russian newspaper Zavtra (what kind of newspapaer it is - http://www.rferl.org/content/russias.../25425155.html)

    in which he claimed responsibility for the current war in Ukraine and admitted that if it hadn't been for his interference, the conflict would have ended like it did in Kharkiv or Odesa. This is for those who still believe that we are having a civil conflict in Ukraine and Russia has nothing to do with it.
    http://zavtra.ru/content/view/kto-tyi-strelok/
    Couldn't find a translation of it, sorry.
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    ==> http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...ne/511584.html

    Russian national Igor Strelkov, a former commander of pro-Moscow separatists in eastern Ukraine, has claimed "personal responsibility" for unleashing the conflict across the border, in which 4,300 people have been killed since April.

    "I was the one who pulled the firing trigger of this war," Strelkov said in an interview published Thursday with Russia's Zavtra newspaper, which espouses imperialist views.

    "If our unit hadn't crossed the border, in the end everything would have fizzled out, like in [the Ukrainian city of] Kharkiv, like in Odessa," Strelkov, also known as Girkin, was quoted as saying.
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    As usual, the part you chose to quote doesn't match the contents of the article.

    He talks about Ukrainian military being reluctant to get involved and that first units or "raiding parties" were ultranationalists like Right Sector. If he (his unit) hadn't been involved, they would have quelled resistance quickly like they did earlier. He takes full responsibility for resisting them, which triggered the war, otherwise, ultranationalists would have just rolled over eastern Ukraine.

    He also mentions that practically all of the local population was pro-Russian, that they were extremely disappointed with lack of proper support from Russia and that they were shocked when Russia rebuffed them after the referenda held.

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