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    Default Re: Ukraine conflict episode 2 Putin´s Empire strikes back

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    As far as I can judge, Russian people blame not Putin, but the West. Russian propaganda makes sure that, whatever Putin does, the USA is ultimately the villain guilty of all Russia's setbacks.
    The western propaganda makes you believe this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    The western propaganda makes you believe this.
    If we don't take into account the Ukrainian sources I'm more exposed to Russian ones, the western propaganda reaches me only as a faint echo. Like this one:http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/188881
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    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...om-support-act
    I wonder what implications it may have.
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    Yes - Ukraine is now officially no longer "non-aligned."

    This is a direct result of Russian-sponsored terrorism. Russia will blame the West and ramp things up but, really, what else can the Ukrainians do?

    Assuming Russia bites off another chunk of the country (possible given Crimea) it's going to be increasingly difficult to safeguard the remainder without NATO.
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    I can't wait for Putin's regime to experience December 1991 all over again.


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    Default Re: Ukraine conflict episode 2 Putin´s Empire strikes back

    Some update on the issue:
    http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com...-official.html
    http://telegraf.com.ua/ukraina/mestn...-boevikov.html
    The second features an intercepted conversation of Dryomov, one of the heads of LNR cossacks who claims to have personally talked to Medvedev. The latter promised all kinds of help, primarily the military one. Dryomov is boasting that Medvedev has given him his personal telephone number and is still astonished that such an insignificant man as he deems himself to be got direct access to the Russian prime minister.
    The general trend of the last two weeks is replacement or annihilation of unruly separatists and gathering the occupied area under one hand.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v...the-carpenter/
    https://news.pn/en/RussiaInvadedUkraine/122614
    Last edited by Gilrandir; 01-03-2015 at 19:10.
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