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    Sovereign Oppressor Member TIE Fighter Shooter Champion, Turkey Shoot Champion, Juggler Champion Kralizec's Avatar
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    Well, yes. It was a French beach holiday by allied soldiers that was the beginning of the end for Hitler.
    Indeed. Just like how in the Korean war the communist north managed to turn the tide in the middle of the summer. Hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists, all eager to lend a hand.

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    Indeed. Just like how in the Korean war the communist north managed to turn the tide in the middle of the summer. Hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists, all eager to lend a hand.
    With the high command's explicit approval. Actively state employed troops doing that would be prosecuted for desertion otherwise.
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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    With the high command's explicit approval. Actively state employed troops doing that would be prosecuted for desertion otherwise.
    But they were "volunteers!" They simply happened to volunteer in organized units inherited from the PLA. They were a separate force {see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Volunteer_Army} entirely....

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    It is January 13th, 2015 and Putin is still a fascist.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    It is January 13th, 2015 and Putin is still a fascist.




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    You are just fufilling you're German duty to be attracted to an autocart. Putin gets things done therefore he is good.

    I pity you
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    It is January 31st, 2015 and Putin is still a fascist.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/0...to-stop-putin/

    First, has any debate ever been improved by comparisons to Hitler? It’s the one type of name-calling certain to drive people crazy. We see that happening in Ukraine. The debate about who is a fascist has been part of the political hysteria that may eventually make that country ungovernable.

    A second reason to be sparing with the F-bomb is more subtle. The label makes us think we’re talking about politicians and political movements ready for Armageddon. Fascists love throwing themselves on funeral pyres—they seem impossible to deter by ordinary means. But that’s not Mr. Putin (and my guess is it’s not Narendra Modi, the likely new Indian prime minister, either). Mr. Putin often miscalculates–but he does calculate.
    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...329348214.html

    Among the "Ten handy phrases for bluffing your way through a conversation about the situation in Ukraine", the British Spectator magazine suggested rather sardonically: "The similarities with Hitler and the Sudetenland/Anschluss/Peter the Great/Stalin and the Tartars/Genghis Khan are striking."
    The article makes it clear that "Historical analogies are invaluable to the experienced bluffer, but the amateur must tread carefully."
    It follows, "When in doubt, hedge: 'I am not saying that Putin is Hitler, but …' or 'It’s easy to get carried away with these comparisons, but...' Try to look pained, as if contemplating both the complexity and the imminent possibility of human suffering."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    It is January 31st, 2015 and Putin is still a fascist.
    Every now and then every company changes its slogans and very often they (slogans) kind of echo the previous one. In view of this and the fact that the above one is like a year old and recent developments in Donbas I suggest we update it. What about "It is whatever date and Putin gets fascister than ever"? Yet I don't insist on this one and open for any ideas.
    And another kind of update:
    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukr...ltseve-n296841
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    It's January 14th here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    It's January 14th here.
    Not at the time he posted, even in Dresden it was still the 13th.

    So put that in your asynchronous pipe and smoke it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    You are just fufilling you're German duty to be attracted to an autocart. Putin gets things done therefore he is good.

    I pity you
    Yes, I am German duty and I love autocarts, bit auto lovers everywhere here.
    But can you show me where I said Putin is good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Not at the time he posted, even in Dresden it was still the 13th.

    So put that in your asynchronous pipe and smoke it.
    You may not believe it, but I was aware of that, there is a little timestamp above every post after all.


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