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    while the Crimea will become a place for ex-drug addicts.
    http://www.unian.info/politics/10987...in-crimea.html
    "The issue of employment of drug addicts, who have already been rehabilitated, is the key to their successful return into society," according to the National Anti-Drug Union. "Nevertheless, many jobs are closed to people previously suffered from addiction. The factor of "social stigma of drug addiction" also complicates the process of job search for people suffering from addiction," says the Union's press service.
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    National Anti-Drug Union is an association set up to coordinate the activities of public and non-profit organizations in Russia on the prevention of drug abuse and drug-related crimes. The Union cooperates with the Federal Service for Drug Control, various authorities, religious, youth, sport and other organizations.
    You should shell them, and then eat them. They're not human beings, anyway.
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    O Tempora, o mores. The pain, the physical pain. They're polluting Crimea. Giving jobs to former drug addicts. Only Putin can do something so inhumane...
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    You should shell them, and then eat them. They're not human beings, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    You should shell them, and then eat them. They're not human beings, anyway.
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    Only Putin can do something so inhumane...
    I agree. Demonization was needless:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33445772

    Just a glance from an outsider:
    http://www.wrath-bearingtree.com/dispatches/
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    I agree. Demonization was needless:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33445772
    Morally, an approval would have been right. They need to admit to it themselves. Someone was going to be pissed, regardless the decision. Russia chose to maintain good relations with a long-term allied government. It was going to be spun one way or another.


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    Just a glance from an outsider:
    http://www.wrath-bearingtree.com/dispatches/
    I am not sure what this is trying to argue. It's also filled with clichés.

    The arguments are scattered. At one point, the author gains a fetishistic obsession with the hammer and sickle on the insignia on Aeroflot and suggests it is as unacceptable as Lufthansa displaying a Swastika on its insignia, and then proceeds to spend a great deal of time detailing why Nazi Romanticism might not be so bad.
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    "Morally, an approval would have been right." Why? Bosnian Forces killed war prisoners, few thousands, figures are still unknown... It is difficult to know, but if the Bosnian had 8,000 men in position to fight, the town would have never fallen.
    In order to match the number of 8,000, the Bosnian Government and UN are taking all unidentified bodies, do DNA (as DNA can show religion), but as all Bosnian are related, it is quite a complex thing.

    As part of a reconciliation process, it doesn't seems to work either, as shown during the commemoration...

    Awful as it was, it is not a genocide, but a war crime (women and children were not killed). The Hague Tribunal took a political stance on this one.

    More than 100,000 Serbs were expelled from Kosovo, Churches burned (not that I am against to destroy Churches but not during an ethnic cleansing...), few thousands killed, but this was not a genocide. Same in Croatia, same in Bosnia.

    So, why Srebrenica differed from the others?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post

    Awful as it was, it is not a genocide, but a war crime (women and children were not killed). The Hague Tribunal took a political stance on this one.
    War crimes are committed against indiscriminate people. Here only one ethnic/confessional group was targeted. This was enough to qualify it as genocide.
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