Ukraine Thread

**Fragony** · 01-19-2016, 16:50

Originally Posted by Viking

Fake.

If they belong to the right, it's probably the Russian right.

Crossed my mind heh, probably

**Gilrandir** · 01-20-2016, 07:24

Originally Posted by Fragony

Crossed my mind heh, probably

Don't you understand that it is aimed to influence the results of the April referendum in the Netherlands on AA with Ukraine? I believe more such stuff is to come from Russia, the sooner the referendum date is, the more fakes you will see.

**Fragony** · 01-20-2016, 08:15

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

Don't you understand that it is aimed to influence the results of the April referendum in the Netherlands on AA with Ukraine? I believe more such stuff is to come from Russia, the sooner the referendum date is, the more fakes you will see.

Of course it's about that. And yeah the chance it's fake is high

**Fragony** · 01-21-2016, 09:03

You two were most likely right.

It's getting kinda silly that referendum, CIA is investigating possible ties to Putin. That's pretty lol. Referendum was enfforced by the perfectly harmless weblog Geenstijl who urge those in favour to vote as well. It's not legally binding anyway, they can (and will) ignore the outcome.

**Gilrandir** · 01-21-2016, 09:14

Originally Posted by Fragony

You two were most likely right.

It's getting kinda silly that referendum, CIA is investigating possible ties to Putin. That's pretty lol. Referendum was enfforced by the perfectly harmless weblog Geenstijl who urge those in favour to vote as well. It's not legally binding anyway, they can (and will) ignore the outcome.

How will you vote?

**Fragony** · 01-21-2016, 10:13

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

How will you vote?

Against, there is a civil war going on, it isn't just a trade treaty but also a military one. The EU shouldn't get too close to Russia. Ukraine is also very poor and pretty corrupt.

**Gilrandir** · 01-22-2016, 07:43

Originally Posted by Fragony

Against, there is a civil war going on, it isn't just a trade treaty but also a military one.

This is the first time I hear of a military aspect of the treaty. Or is the EU a military organization?

Originally Posted by Fragony

The EU shouldn't get too close to Russia.

It may surprise you, but Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Finland are the EU members and are as close to Russia as you may want - they have a common border with Russia. And Georgia with which the EU signed AA is in the same situation.

Originally Posted by Fragony

Ukraine is also very poor and pretty corrupt.

That is true, but in some EU countries at the moment of their joining the EU corruption was similarly severe. Some say that in Bulgaria, for example, it is still not eradicated.

**Strike For The South** · 02-19-2016, 19:20

It's February 19 2016 and Putin is still a fascist.

I'm convinced 90% of you supporting Putin are bigots because of Russia's very well documented problems with Gays, Browns, and Muslims. Things which Putin us currently stoking.

This is easy, no wonder this is what people do.

**Fragony** · 02-19-2016, 19:37

That is true but almost everythin east of Germany has these issues. I find Russia to be really calm, especially after a jet was shot down, never expected they would be. Turkey or rather Erdogan is a problem