Ukraine Thread

[Gilrandir]

IIRC, similar to NATO, an attack on an EU member state is seen as an attack on the EU or so...

I also like how you guys discussed this for several posts and noone spent the 2 minutes it took me to search and read up on it.

Because if I always look up everything that takes me only two minutes to look up, I will spend a lot of minutes in total, no?
So why would you ask these silly questions after I just helped you not to waste much more time discussing things you do not really know anything about but heard from others but do not really check yet talk about but maybe and perhaps?

Funny enough, however hard you might have spent the two minutes you didn't help a tiny bit. We were speaking of ASSOCIATION AGREEMENT, not of MEMBERSHIP. Here is the text of the former:

http://ukraine-eu.mfa.gov.ua/en/page/open/id/2900

No mentioning of any military aspect.

But even if it were about EU membership and a possible attack on a member state - the EU doesn't have any (joined) armed forces. Evidently, since most of the EU states are also NATO states it would be NATO article 5 that would be enforced in such a case.

It's not what I say but what others say, but that is not the only reason to vote against this treaty, in the most egoistical form, it's going to cost a lot and there aren't any benefits, the billions that go to Greece are nothing compared to what will go to Ukraine, economic experts expect a 36% increase of inflation (yeah I know 'experts').

You can read the agreement and figure out yourself if it is that costly or resposibilities-fraught as experts believe.