Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
I don't agree with them because of the report but because they are an authority (while you are not) and because they are impartial (while you are not). I see no reason why I should reject their conclusion.
The reasons don't matter - you agree. Hence you can't pretend to ignore contrary arguments directed against the point of view you subscribe to.

Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
I also don't think Ukraine is to blame in the classic sense of the word. Obviously, the guilty person is the one who fired that missile, but Kiev should have closed off that area, especially as the aircraft losses started happening on higher altitudes, over 6 km, which is the upper limit for most shoulder launched AA missiles.
MH 17 was the first aircraft loss at such an altitude, so before it Ukraine had had no reason to close off the area. And again, other companies had reshaped their routes without any tip or order.