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    "The USSR official outfit and traditions are very often strikingly similar to those of nazi Germany"
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    "The USSR official outfit and traditions are very often strikingly similar to those of nazi Germany"
    Just google for pictures (videos) of parades in both countries and you'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    Just google for pictures (videos) of parades in both countries and you'll see.
    You do know that German officers were mostly responsible for training Russian army since Peter the Great, so it is quite normal for Russian and German military traditions to be similar.

    As for similarity in uniforms, that's a laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    You do know that German officers were mostly responsible for training Russian army since Peter the Great, so it is quite normal for Russian and German military traditions to be similar.
    I don't mean military parades only. Demostrations were also designed according to similar patterns.

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    As for similarity in uniforms, that's a laugh.
    Google those of pioneers and Hitlerjugend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    I don't mean military parades only. Demostrations were also designed according to similar patterns.
    What?

    Google those of pioneers and Hitlerjugend.
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    Short trousers and a shirt? Common "dressy" youth clothing at the time.

    You're reeeeeeally pushing it now.

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    Well, I have to admit that in both case trousers have 2 legs, and shirts two arms.
    Then, of course, parades look really similar, as the one in USA, Vietnam, and all others countries having an army.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
    Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Well, I have to admit that in both case trousers have 2 legs, and shirts two arms.
    Then, of course, parades look really similar, as the one in USA, Vietnam, and all others countries having an army.
    But you forgot one very important thing - Soviets drank water. Nazis also drank water...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    "The USSR official outfit and traditions are very often strikingly similar to those of nazi Germany"
    A follow up on the topic - posters of two countries in question:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suraknar View Post
    The article exists for a reason yes, I did not write it...

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    Flashing news!

    Uniforms and propaganda posters from the same time look similar! Soviet and German cars, too! Even, the toothpastes! Just look at these suspicious little devilish cylinders!

    Not to mention that both their leaders had a mustache. Coincidence? I think not.

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    "A follow up on the topic"
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    one of my favourite:
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    I have others but I won't bother to put in parallel...
    Last edited by Brenus; 05-11-2016 at 18:24.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
    Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post

    I have others but I won't bother to put in parallel...
    It is the parallel that matters. The messages of the posters are indeed universal, but I was pointing to the DESIGN similarities (including Stalin giving a nazi salute) which testifies to the readiness of the two regimes to draw upon each other's experience and techniques.
    Quote Originally Posted by Suraknar View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    It is the parallel that matters. The messages of the posters are indeed universal, but I was pointing to the DESIGN similarities (including Stalin giving a nazi salute) which testifies to the readiness of the two regimes to draw upon each other's experience and techniques.
    You're making a good case for immigration, because it clearly shows that, in the end, we humans are all the same.


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    "It is the parallel that matters. " You means that all propaganda or representation will show the same things!!!!
    "(including Stalin giving a nazi salute)" more, more, this is making my day...

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    Last edited by Brenus; 05-13-2016 at 07:06.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
    Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"

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