Ukraine Thread

[Gilrandir]

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/two...&NewsCatID=351

That's Ukraine's government are siding with the enemy of the world they should not be allowed into EU siding with ISIS supporters to spite Russia who.knows what's In Those ships

So Turkey is the enemy of the world? Breaking news: a NATO member is the enemy of the world which supports ISIS!!! Two Turkish battleships are to take Ukrainian arms and nazis to transport them to ISIS!!!

And someone snapped his fingers at the power Russian propaganda wields.

It's not true what is said there, Geenpijl declined the money themselves, but they did help others get it, no matter if they are pro, against, or neutral

I expect you can provide facts which prove what you said.

[Fragony]

Yes but it's in Dutch, it's all 100% clean, minister of national-affairs (who isn't exactly Geenpeil's greatest fan) publically stated that all accusations are baseless. All camps got the same amount, 50.000, totalling 150.000. Geenpeil itself refused to take any money whatsoever(they had the right on it but kindly didn't oblige) , they work strictly with volunteers and crowdfunds.

[Snowhobbit]

So Turkey is the enemy of the world? Breaking news: a NATO member is the enemy of the world which supports ISIS!!! Two Turkish battleships are to take Ukrainian arms and nazis to transport them to ISIS!!!

And someone snapped his fingers at the power Russian propaganda wields.



I expect you can provide facts which prove what you said.

Lizardo wants to bring the lizardpeople into power by killing all humans using chemical weapons. That is why he is so upset about the boats that took part in the destruction of Syrian chemical weapons.

[Lizardo]

Snowhobbit cant accept facts that don't allign with his world view you're in denial the amount of Military aged muslim males has drastically changed the countries demographics plus they say they are under 18 to get more benifits you're country doesnt even age test them. And the other foolish fool Gilrandir have you made a desperate appeal yet to the dutch like in these videos. How much compensation did you get from George Soros for this.

[Lizardo]

No No Pain No Ukraine hey Ukraine has gone to shit!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g_iylTykr6E

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7o08mz0WfAE

https://www.rt.com/news/337010-ukrai...-jets-croatia/

[Fragony]

Just voted, was rather busy which is good

[rory_20_uk]

It is a shame the Democratic deficit in Europe is so great that we are all forced to use whatever vote we are given to make a "statement" on something else that no vote was allowed - since people would likely vote the "wrong" way.

[Gilrandir]

And the other foolish fool Gilrandir have you made a desperate appeal yet to the dutch like in these videos. How much compensation did you get from George Soros for this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g_iylTykr6E

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7o08mz0WfAE

https://www.rt.com/news/337010-ukrai...-jets-croatia/
[/QUOTE]
You should really get your wits together. They seem to be blown away with each new video you encounter in the Internet.

The first video you linked is by Russian television. Do I have to tell you what is Russia's take on everything connected with Ukraine? So referring to a Russian media for a reliable information and sober opinion about Ukraine (and not only) is ridiculous.

The second video: I don't support violence in the case when a group of aged people is gathered to say something. But there are some considerations which you may fail to know.

First of all, how do you know those youths are nazis (and they speak Russian by the way)?

Second of all, do you think they are attacking random senior protesters? The protesters display the flags of the communist party banned in Ukraine. So their meeting is a violation of law.

Third of all, if it were a serious attack, the pensioners would end up in hospital. What I saw in the video is pushing (on both sides, btw), some gas spraying and flag taking. If those youths meant business, believe me, the outcome would have been quite different.

Fourth of all, there is some ground for the youths (and others) to react like that (in this case it is overreaction), and it also concerns the third video: it is with such meetings (and zero reaction to them) that the occupation of Crimea and Donbas started. So people have become keenly (even painfully) conscious of anything that may further lead to the Donbas scenario. The same with the soda label: Coca-cola no more recognized Crimea as a part of Ukraine. Such flagrant statement in a war-ridden country is a sure way to provoke the reaction we saw in the video.

Generally, this is the last time I bother to comment on any videos about Ukraine you may find in the Net. I'm sure there are heaps of them, and many are rather unpleasant or shocking. But I believe if one sets his mind on digging out some dirt about any country he will succeed in it. But what he will prove? That shit happens everywhere? This is a conclusion that could be reached without bothering to find a proof.

Somehow you need a master Jedi to teach you how to use the force. Sarmatian, there is a new padawan who needs apprenticeship.

[Fragony]

Results (association treaty) are in, more than 30% voted (is the minimum), 64% voted against. About the same as with the EU constitution. Same thing will also happen of course, they call the almost exact same thing something else and do it anyway.

It's a good day though. Going to be interesting.

handy map https://www.facebook.com/euroreferen...type=3&theater This can't be just gnored

[Brenus]

"The protesters display the flags of the communist party banned in Ukraine. So their meeting is a violation of law." Hold on... I swear you told me that it was not true that the Communist Party was ban by law in Ukraine? So, to clarify, is the Communist Party banned in Ukraine or not?

[Gilrandir]

Results (association treaty) are in, more than 30% voted (is the minimum), 64% voted against. About the same as with the EU constitution. Same thing will also happen of course, they call the almost exact same thing something else and do it anyway.

It's a good day though. Going to be interesting.

handy map https://www.facebook.com/euroreferen...type=3&theater This can't be just gnored

The map says 61% against. Which is the correct number?