Ukraine Thread

[Fragony]

Then get a referendum on the EU membership (as the British) and have done with it once and for all.

We can't do that sadly, changing consitution ain't that easy. But it have been some good times to see eurocrats panicking 'THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE FOR THE EU IS WAR', 'IT WILL CAUSE AN CONTINENTAL CRISIS', quality media and state media abroad going nuts, EVERYBODY here knows that that referendum was never binding. You lot have fallen for the best organised prank ever. There are really serious objections our beloved parlement will have to answer for to be taken even remotily seriously. good luck fooing us again. But all in all you all have been reeled in like a big fat fish.

gg

edit, the EC does exactly what we hoped they would do, give us the finger and say they are going to do it anyway. Brits are you listening? You know what to do

[Gilrandir]

Putin created a new law enforcement body:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...book-with-new/

[Fragony]

Putin created a new law enforcement body:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...book-with-new/

I don't see anything particulary troublesome at first glance, only a lot of see? See? SEE?

[Brenus]

"Perhaps Mr. Putin sees oil staying in the $30-$40 range for the foreseeable future and understands what havoc this will bring for the economy and the government’s coffers. Perhaps Moscow is seeing the seeds of a new round of social unrest forming in the opposition. Perhaps Mr. Putin and his aides fear that punishing Western sanctions will remain in place for the foreseeable future and that the campaign to weaken European and American resolve has failed. Perhaps the czar is planning new international intrigues." Lots of perhaps.

[Fragony]

"Perhaps Mr. Putin sees oil staying in the $30-$40 range for the foreseeable future and understands what havoc this will bring for the economy and the government’s coffers. Perhaps Moscow is seeing the seeds of a new round of social unrest forming in the opposition. Perhaps Mr. Putin and his aides fear that punishing Western sanctions will remain in place for the foreseeable future and that the campaign to weaken European and American resolve has failed. Perhaps the czar is planning new international intrigues." Lots of perhaps.

Lots of insinuation, I know it's just an opinion-article but the wording is off, I expected better from something as respectable as the Wasshington-Post. Why is the comparison to a madmen who lived centuries ago in any way comparable to Russia today?
This is framing of the worst kind, and it isn't very classy. I don't like Poetin but I do like honesty.

Czar, seriously wtf. It's ok if I call that total freak Erdogan a sultan but I don't write it in a very influentual newspaper

[Gilrandir]

Lots of insinuation,

It is true. But it is also true that Russia has a most developed system of law enforcement bodies, and here comes a new one which is directly under Putin's command. It raises questions like "What is the need for a new one? Is it an admission that the old ones are inadequate? Or are the responsibilities of the newly created National Guard would be different from those proclaimed?" The author of the article offers his answers to such questions.

[Fragony]

It is true. But it is also true that Russia has a most developed system of law enforcement bodies, and here comes a new one which is directly under Putin's command. It raises questions like "What is the need for a new one? Is it an admission that the old ones are inadequate? Or are the responsibilities of the newly created National Guard would be different from those proclaimed?" The author of the article offers his answers to such questions.

I understand your considerations, but we have a national police who answers to the minister of justice here as well. That it COULD go wrong doesn't mean it will. The writer of the article is really of by comparing it with a really outdated concept of a czar being in Russia. By law an officer has to wear a sabre in Brittain by law for example. Also here there are many laws that are just ignored. The lines just disconnect in that article

[Gilrandir]

It is true. But it is also true that Russia has a most developed system of law enforcement bodies, and here comes a new one which is directly under Putin's command. It raises questions like "What is the need for a new one? Is it an admission that the old ones are inadequate? Or are the responsibilities of the newly created National Guard would be different from those proclaimed?" The author of the article offers his answers to such questions.

Another article on the problem:
http://www.jamestown.org/single/?tx_...1#.Vw5a5_mLRMx