Ukraine Thread

[Fragony]

Don't know if it's true and the article is behind a paywall, but according to the UN the Ukrainian government is torturing people on a pretty massive scale in special fascilities. That makes the association treaty with the EU all the more laughable if true.

[Gilrandir]

Don't know if it's true and the article is behind a paywall, but according to the UN the Ukrainian government is torturing people on a pretty massive scale in special fascilities. That makes the association treaty with the EU all the more laughable if true.

The whole report: http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Count...MMU_Report.pdf

Both sides are suspected of violence, yet evidence on both sides is based on personal interviews. Don't know if those can be treated as accurate.

[Gilrandir]

That makes the association treaty with the EU all the more laughable if true.

I don't see how the UN report bears on association agreement. Jail tortures are disclosed from time to time around the world, even on the territory of the EU countries (https://dearkitty1.wordpress.com/201...scovered-2011/), but neither of those countries was kicked out of the EU, nor the USA's reputation of a beacon of democracy suffered a deathblow after the Guantanamo jail uproar. After all, secret services are notorious for their underhanded methods, especially those which stem from the Soviet KGB.

[Gilrandir]

The head of the Russian duma says Russians are oppressed and discriminated in the former USSR, including Belarus: http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com...-russians.html
An ordinary lip service?