Ukraine Thread

**Fragony** · 10-05-2016, 10:13

That much seems obvious

**Gilrandir** · 10-05-2016, 15:36

Originally Posted by Fragony

That much seems obvious

Then spill out your information - is it somehow connected with the Netherlands changing their stance on Ukraine-EU AA?

**Fragony** · 10-05-2016, 16:36

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

Then spill out your information - is it somehow connected with the Netherlands changing their stance on Ukraine-EU AA?

No do you expect the Netherlands to have any influence. The deal with Russia has always been that 'whe' the west would never creep up on them. The AA treaty basicly makes the Ukraine a member-state and a military partner. There more reasons why we said no to it including just hating the EU but (which will be ignored, referendum is not binding) there very good other reasons as well but these only concern us really

**Gilrandir** · 10-06-2016, 15:47

Originally Posted by Fragony

The AA treaty basicly makes the Ukraine a member-state and a military partner.

Association =/= Membership nor Military partnership.

**Gilrandir** · 10-06-2016, 15:51

Putin demands compensation for the damage caused by US sanctions:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ru...KCN1231HA?il=0

**spmetla** · 10-10-2016, 07:47

No chance of that happening.

**Fragony** · 10-10-2016, 12:23

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

Association =/= Membership nor Military partnership.

The first no, the second yes. Our mp is cornered on the latter because nobody wants it here, only the EU does. You must not have heard of it but it's a major issue here. Biggest issue is simply that we said no to it, for various reasons, often just hate for the EU I'll admit that

**Gilrandir** · 10-10-2016, 15:03

Originally Posted by Fragony

The first no, the second yes. Our mp is cornered on the latter because nobody wants it here, only the EU does. You must not have heard of it but it's a major issue here. Biggest issue is simply that we said no to it, for various reasons, often just hate for the EU I'll admit that

EU is not a military alliance and doesn't have its armed forces, so the part in the Ukraine-EU AA which you are so afraid of concerns security issues, not military ones. Anyway, we both read the corresponding part of the agreement and had a discussion of it, if you remember.

Meanwhile in Russia:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ring-pre-teen/