Ukraine Thread

[Brenus]

"So NATO is inveterately stupid in accepting Montenegro?" No. But is Montenegro joining NATO is so dangerous that some need a Coup to stop it?

[Gilrandir]

I think the idea is more consolidation - who isn't NATO at this point? Austria, Switz, Scandinavia, Serbia/Kosovo - after that we get into the direct confrontation (with Russia) territory.

It might be an eye-opener, but, according to the Kremlin, NATO already IS in the direct confrontation territory aka Baltic states and Poland.

"So NATO is inveterately stupid in accepting Montenegro?" No.

You gave reasons why Montenegro is absolutely useless for NATO. Don't they see it?

But is Montenegro joining NATO is so dangerous that some need a Coup to stop it?

It is a pity you can't admire the uproar produced by Russian media discussing Montenergo joining NATO. The average accusation is betrayal Slavic brotherhood. Given the vitriolic character of the uproar one would think it is one of the major concerns of the Russian government.

[Sarmatian]

Don't they see it?

Is this how you wanna do it? Pass over arguments by supposedly asking "insightful questions" ad nauseum until you simply bore everyone into submission?

[Brenus]

"Is this how you wanna do it? Pass over arguments by supposedly asking "insightful questions" ad nauseum until you simply bore everyone into submission?" I have to say for Gilrandir that is a very successful tactic. His best.

[Gilrandir]

Is this how you wanna do it? Pass over arguments by supposedly asking "insightful questions" ad nauseum until you simply bore everyone into submission?

I ask this question because I see inconsistencies (and no arguments) in what Brenus claims. On the one hand, he says that Montenegro isn't worth accepting into NATO. On the other hand, he says that NATO is not that stupid to fail to see the worthlessness of Montenegro as a NATO member. The question that arises is how can wise NATO leadership make such a stupid move. And I wanted Brenus to explain it. That simple.

As for the tactics you accuse me of, it is not aimed at any submission. But it is the same one your friend Brenus employs all the time. Yet it doesn't make you nauseous, does it? Quod licet jovi non licet bovi?

[Gilrandir]

A new mural was spotted in Belgrade.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=30b_1478525913
Will a Serb now voice his dissatisfaction that Bandera "is glorified" in Ukraine?

[Sarmatian]

For the first post, that wasn't at all what he was saying, but I don't really care about your opinion. Whenever you become too obnoxious, the thread turns into you communicating with yourself by posting link after link. If that's ok with you, go right ahead.

As far as second post is concerned, I have no idea who the guy is and what he has to do with Bandera.

[Brenus]

"And I wanted Brenus to explain it." Err, why should have to explain your mental process? Be responsible for your words, I am for mine.