Ukraine Thread

**Brenus** · 03-18-2017, 18:00

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

Again a wrong initial presupposition. Where did I say (or perhaps you have found any sources on that?) that Ukraine denied her entrance? The decision is still pending. I believe that the Ukrainian authorities are searching for a way out that will look most adequate and will be digestable for the community.

My mistake.
However, last time we had this kind of debate, when you told me that the Communist Party won't be banned, at the end, it was... So, as we say in French, boiled cat fears even cold water... It lost a bit in translation...

**Gilrandir** · 03-19-2017, 06:08

Originally Posted by Brenus

My mistake.
However, last time we had this kind of debate, when you told me that the Communist Party won't be banned, at the end, it was...

Again wrong. I never said it WOUDN'T (WON'T) be banned. I said it WASN'T banned AT THAT MOMENT and that the court was considering its ban. I didn't claim anything certain about the outcome of the trial.

**Brenus** · 03-19-2017, 09:55

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

Again wrong. I never said it WOUDN'T (WON'T) be banned. I said it WASN'T banned AT THAT MOMENT and that the court was considering its ban. I didn't claim anything certain about the outcome of the trial.

Casuist.

**Gilrandir** · 03-19-2017, 15:41

Originally Posted by Brenus

Casuist.

Precisionist. You once said that it was terribly important.

**Brenus** · 03-19-2017, 17:50

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

Precisionist. You once said that it was terribly important.

Reality check. You pretended it was not against the Communist Party. It was. Simple.

**Gilrandir** · 03-19-2017, 19:13

Originally Posted by Brenus

Reality check. You pretended it was not against the Communist Party. It was. Simple.

Do you want to start it over again? The reality OF THAT MOMENT was that Communists were not banned. They were on trial. Ostensibly nobody knew what the outcome of it would be. The court's ruling came several months later, AFTER this question was being discussed on these boards.

**Brenus** · 03-19-2017, 22:54

You can repeat it as long you want. The project was to ban the Communist Party as expressed by the Nazi in charge. Communist party was ban.
The result is what you denied. Ukraine banned a political Party (decommunisation laws). Fact you were contesting against all evidence. And fact which happened.

24 Jul 2015
Pavel Petrenko has signed a decree banning all communist parties from participating in elections in the country.
“You know, I think today is the day of historical justice. Today the minister has signed the decision according to legislation adopted by the Upper Rada [upper chamber of the Ukrainian parliament]. In accordance with this law communist parties lose their right to take part in political and election processes,” the secretary of Ukraine’s national security council Aleksandr Turchinov said during a briefing on Friday.