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    Now Putin admits that THEY held referendum in Crimea.
    https://www.unian.info/politics/1019...ession-mp.html
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    Could escalate

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    Could escalate
    It could. I'm not sure how. Ukraine can't expect any support from NATO countries since those with the ability have no interest and those without can't annoy Russia since Russia will act. By itself? Russia is already causing a massive amount of issues and could ramp them up.

    Russia is proving to be an expert in the "grey" area of warfare - the "not quite hostile enough but still really hostile". Democracies are increasingly difficult to get "riled up" and probably rightly so - why should our soldiers fight and potentially die when not all Ukrainians are doing so? Give the locals training, give them army surplus and if they want to fight for their rights then so be it. But against heavily armed Russian mercenaries, I doubt they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    It could. I'm not sure how. Ukraine can't expect any support from NATO countries since those with the ability have no interest and those without can't annoy Russia since Russia will act. By itself? Russia is already causing a massive amount of issues and could ramp them up.

    Russia is proving to be an expert in the "grey" area of warfare - the "not quite hostile enough but still really hostile". Democracies are increasingly difficult to get "riled up" and probably rightly so - why should our soldiers fight and potentially die when not all Ukrainians are doing so? Give the locals training, give them army surplus and if they want to fight for their rights then so be it. But against heavily armed Russian mercenaries, I doubt they do.

    Can escalate because of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQnXo2HMriQ this was so dumb. Because of these idiots we will be involved if things clashes. Russia never harmed us but because of the EU we will be drawn in anyway. Screw them, Russians are nice people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Can escalate because of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQnXo2HMriQ this was so dumb. Because of these idiots we will be involved if things clashes. Russia never harmed us but because of the EU we will be drawn in anyway. Screw them, Russians are nice people.
    I don't know that they're any nicer than Ukrainians. Or any other group, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Russia never harmed us
    Oh really https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/04/e...ntl/index.html
    Short memory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Screw them, Russians are nice people.
    How do you know? You might have met a couple of Russians OUTSIDE RUSSIA and have arrived at that conclusion? Anyway, making such general conclusions about large groups is always at fault.

    But even if we admit validity of such conclusions, could you name any nation that isn't/wasn't nice? Weren't Germans nice people in 1938? Have they become nicer since then?

    Among other news: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ussia-flare-up
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