Ukraine Thread

**Gilrandir** · 11-27-2018, 13:05

Originally Posted by Fragony

Been to your country, also been to Russia. People are not the politicians.

So nice people elect bad politicians? Are they still nice after that?

Originally Posted by Fragony

All countries spy on eachother we do that as well

It was not just spying. You said Russia didn't do you anything bad. So is it not so bad when somebody meddles with chemical weapons on your territory?

**Fragony** · 11-27-2018, 14:39

We do noot have these weapons

**Gilrandir** · 11-28-2018, 05:57

Originally Posted by Fragony

We do noot have these weapons

Then they have brought these weapons with them, like they did in Salisbury.

**Gilrandir** · 11-28-2018, 06:06

Let us see what Trump will do (or at least say) about this whole story. I remember him blaming Obama for Crimea annexation saying that if he had been president at that time there would have been no annexation. Now he has his chance to do something. But so far he only mumbles he doesn't like what is happening betweem Ukraine and Russia.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 11-28-2018, 08:15

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

Let us see what Trump will do (or at least say) about this whole story. I remember him blaming Obama for Crimea annexation saying that if he had been president at that time there would have been no annexation. Now he has his chance to do something. But so far he only mumbles he doesn't like what is happening betweem Ukraine and Russia.

USA isn't willing to bleed for Ukraine or Crimea. Nothing gonna happen.

**Gilrandir** · 11-28-2018, 10:15

Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

USA isn't willing to bleed for Ukraine or Crimea. Nothing gonna happen.

I know that. I just want to see Trump squirming on his words about the milksop Obama and the toughie me.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 11-28-2018, 15:34

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

I know that. I just want to see Trump squirming on his words about the milksop Obama and the toughie me.

That's years ago now. His political memory is much shorter ranged. I think it's some kind of turbulence resulting from the eddies surrounding his immense narcissism.

**rory_20_uk** · 11-28-2018, 15:50

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

I know that. I just want to see Trump squirming on his words about the milksop Obama and the toughie me.

He lacks the insight - you're forgetting that he's has his beliefs and fits reality around that rather than perceiving reality and forming what he thinks: he fired those missiles and that shows how 'ard he is.