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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
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    Would you please source that England gave permanent residency and citizen status to 560.000 and Germany to 1.226.000 people in a year? It goes against what I have been told (and have read).

    I think you are just wrong, simple as that.

    Wait, let me rephrase that: I KNOW YOU ARE WRONG. So there.

    Swedens immigration politics is extreme, and you can't compare that to seasonal workers or others who don't get citizenship.
    German : https://www.destatis.de/EN/FactsFigu...n/Current.html

    According to provisional results, 1,226,000 people immigrated to Germany in 2013.
    UK : http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/late...ion-statistics

    I actually found a more up to date figure - 583,000 total immigration

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Moody View Post
    German : https://www.destatis.de/EN/FactsFigu...n/Current.html



    UK : http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/late...ion-statistics

    I actually found a more up to date figure - 583,000 total immigration
    Did they get citizenship? As it looks, that figure counts guest workers such as me (working a season as ski instructor as an example).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Did they get citizenship? As it looks, that figure counts guest workers such as me (working a season as ski instructor as an example).
    Like all immigration stats (your own country included) it includes anyone who is granted residence.

    Edit - just realised I was wrong its granted Residence not Permanent Residence which would be citizenship - have confirmed however this is also true of Swedish immigration stats
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    Real question is, do you want to have your enviroment go to hell just because it makes people won't will be part of any participation feel good about themselves, cozy within the comfortable bliss that is being absolutily morally superior, no questions asked, and none allowed.

    It really isn't such a good idea to import people from the third world for votes. People who have to deal with what is wrong can tell. Soooo, let's bring it home. People who vote multiculti should be the first to give up their spare rooms.

    But that won't be an option will it, multiculti is something others should do, amice. Let's start with Lady Ashton, is a baronnes, has a castle. Plenty of spare rooms probably. While a friend of mine lives on a camping because immigrants get priority because the EU wants it to be like that. I would apreciate it if she buys their food as well, saves my friend waiting for an hour waiting in the line for handouts.

    And yeah, why can't I just take him in, I did exactly that though, 3 months didn't burden my 40square meter kingdom all that much.
    Last edited by Fragony; 12-16-2014 at 16:41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Moody View Post
    Like all immigration stats (your own country included) it includes anyone who is granted residence.

    Edit - just realised I was wrong its granted Residence not Permanent Residence which would be citizenship - have confirmed however this is also true of Swedish immigration stats
    No, the stats for Sweden I gave is permanent residency, citizenship.

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    they don't add up then - according to your governments statistics site (which is a nightmare for a non Swedish speaker) - your Government granted 50167 citizenships in 2013

    you have a population of 9644864 so that isn't 1% of your population - its 0.5%

    your immigration total was at 115845 which is 1.2% so you must be mistaking the stats...

    (taken from http://www.scb.se/sv_/Hitta-statisti...--Riket/26040/)

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    That source says immigration 2013 was 115.845

    You read "Changed to Swedish citizenship"...

    This source is more clear:

    http://www.migrationsverket.se/downl...77636/tab1.pdf

    first column left is yearly immigration...

    Might be that guest students are counted here as well though (but that isnt many thousand).

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    I think you are misinterpreting it - much like the German and UK statistics the total immigration is not total citizenship merely total granted residence (either via EU membership, Asylum or Applied)

    the EU stats for 2012 agree with your Government's stats for 2012 on that page... (see http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statist...ion_statistics)

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