Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
But the self-existent creator in point 4 kind of contradicts point 1, does he not?
Why do you think so?

Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
But it's not true.

It is ONE theory of what could be "true" among many, if it's even worth being called a theory - as it makes no real scientific effort.
My argument is not framed merely as a theory or a possibility. It is an argument which strictly follows the laws of logic where one point doesn't simply allow for the possibility of the next; it goes further than that, and actually demands the necessity of it. Logical argument like this is much more fundamental than scientific inquiry, indeed the principles of science are subject to those of logic. Science can only offer predictive theories (eg, I'm 99.9999% sure that two chemicals will react a certain way going by previous experiments), whereas logic deals with truths at a more fundamental and absolute level.

If you think that my argument is not true, you can't just dismiss it as a theory. You have to show why it is wrong by demonstrating where my logical reasoning is incorrect.

Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
Also, I think it's worth arguing the premise of your argument about Omniscient, Omnipresent and Omnipotent. If that were true, why would prayers be needed, as an example?
You're going into particular questions about Christian theology again. That is not what this argument is about.