Hostage Situation in Sydney CBD at Lindt Cafe

[Papewaio]

Looks like it is over.

No reports of any deaths at this point.

Police went in, a lot of noise can see footage of them throwing in flash bang grenades (or variants).

[Husar]

I just got a newsflash-thingie on my phone that said two people died when they stormed the cafe.

[Papewaio]

No news from the reporters on the live feed.

[Husar]

http://ktla.com/2014/12/15/gunman-ho...r-tony-abbott/

ABC reported that two people were dead and three were in serious condition.

Seven people had been taken out of the Sydney cafe on stretchers, and five of them appeared to be receiving treatment immediately, the broadcaster reported.

The fate of the gunman, identified by an official with direct knowledge of the situation as Man Haron Monis, was unknown. It was also unknown if any police were injured.

Whether that is reliable I do not know of course. Given that they reported a lot of gunfire, it seems possible though, if there was a shootout instead of a quick takedown.

[Kadagar_AV]

http://ktla.com/2014/12/15/gunman-ho...r-tony-abbott/



Whether that is reliable I do not know of course. Given that they reported a lot of gunfire, it seems possible though, if there was a shootout instead of a quick takedown.

So how does a snipe look now, given your information of 2 people dead is correct?

[Husar]

So how does a snipe look now, given your information of 2 people dead is correct?

A bit of wind from the wrong direction, a bent window through which the light doesn't pass in a straight line or a sudden movement the moment you pull the trigger and you have one headless hostage and an incredibly enraged hostage taker. A hidden accomplice among the hostages and you have a whole lot of dead people. No, still doesn't look good as long as he is not likely to kill anyone immediately.

Once we can beam people, these situations will be easy to resolve.

[Kadagar_AV]

A bit of wind from the wrong direction, a bent window through which the light doesn't pass in a straight line or a sudden movement the moment you pull the trigger and you have one headless hostage and an incredibly enraged hostage taker. A hidden accomplice among the hostages and you have a whole lot of dead people. No, still doesn't look good as long as he is not likely to kill anyone immediately.

Once we can beam people, these situations will be easy to resolve.

Seriously, what you write is just stupid.

You might aswell go up to the Islamic terrorist and try to put a flower in his gun.

I am a military trained marksman, and I can assure you that a kill-shot could have easily been made, without risking the hostages (REALLY, you think a trained sniper would pull if there was a risk!!?? )

You, my dear sir, seem blinded by your ideology.

I of course full heartedly agree that the police should strive for a result where everyone get out alive, perpetrator included.

However, when you deal with obvious islamist fanatics, in a hostage situation, there is only one sound answer.

Personally, I would have made the shot.

Recent history seems to prove me right.

[Papewaio]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/

No confirmation of any deaths.

All the hostages were removed by paramedics onto stretchers,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-1...gunman/5969162

"Heavily armed police have stormed a cafe in central Sydney, ending a siege where a gunman had been holding hostages at bay since Monday morning.

Loud explosions and yelling could be heard from outside the Lindt Chocolat Cafe in Sydney's Martin Place at about 2:00am (AEDT).

Dozens of paramedic crews could also be seen at the scene with stretchers.

Minutes earlier, several more hostages had emerged from the cafe.

A gunman, identified by police as Iranian cleric Man Haron Monis, took an unknown number of people hostage at the cafe shortly before 10:00am (AEDT) on Monday.

More to come."

I think some of the media outlets are going for ratings not facts.

[Kadagar_AV]

Also 3 gravely wounded according to Swedish media (+ the 2 dead, one should be the perp).