So Jezza is to be the Leader of Her Majesties' Opposition, what do you guys think?
Me? I can hardly wait! Gets popcorn.
Our Lord, J.C.
So Jezza is to be the Leader of Her Majesties' Opposition, what do you guys think?
Me? I can hardly wait! Gets popcorn.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
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Risks are too great for my liking - IF he were ever to become PM, he could cause so much damage within 5 years.
The future would be interesting - the other scenario is that Labour get so clobbered that the Tories without an opposition to worry about instantly fracture into 2 or more parties since the only thing that keeps them together is the hatred of Labour.
Labour might of course be wracked by significant internal strife as the whip is withdrawn from people who are not Left wing enough.
Interesting times.
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Well, he's described the death of Bin Laden as a tragedy, refused to condemn the IRA during the troubles (but happy to openly condemn the British Army), advocated a closer relationship with Russia and most recently he has asked for the effective removal of the Royal Prerogative and Orders in Council be making them subject to parliamentary veto.
I think that, in reality, he's less likely to get elected than Michael Foot.
This may cause Labour to fracture, it may cause the Tories to fracture as a knock on, if Labour fractures then the more Centrist section may swallow the Lib-Dems - again.
Interesting times, indeed.
Ironically I think that this shows the corruption of the Unions - they supported "electable" candidates during the 90's which pushed Labour from the Left to the Centre, then they got fed up and supported Ed Milliband, and that was a train wreck, now the voting system has changed and they no longer have control - even had they not supported Corbyn I expect the grass roots would have. The point is, this exposes the gulf between the Labour "establishment" and the actual party en masse.
At least Tory politicians are honest about being a social elite.
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The whole hysteria about Corbyn reminds me the panick of the rednecks over the election of a socialist muslim named Husein, back in 2008.
Relax, Corbyn is not a communist and he isn't going to make your railway company public again.
The future of your train wrecks is safe.
He's very lucky that Blair denounced him, that statement will probably grant him the leadership of the party.
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There isn't the money to nationalise the industries and return to the heyday of the 1970's where british manufacturing was an international joke due to the dire quality and productivity. Unless he were to just print more and buy it up that way.
Markets are very temperamental. If he decides he'll print loadsa money to finance projects that the private sector doesn't want to the Bank of England is therefore under Political control. We could have the rating of the pound falling rather quickly. And given the country mainly does services and has little intrinsic true value creation that is a problem.
If he were to spook the financial sector - which love or hate them brings in a large amount of GDP and are pretty easy to move abroad unlike manufacturing - London's looses critical mass to elsewhere and they might decide they'd rather not return back as now there is critical mass elsewhere.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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Well, where would they move it? China? America? (Actually...)
Regardless of leadership, it is certainly the case that the UK needs to diversify sharply from financial services...
By sharply, I of course mean in the sense of forcefully and coherently, not merely "quickly".
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No, he's definitely a communist and like many communist Labour Party members I suspect he was on Russia's payroll in the 1980's. He's also an atheist and a republican - which makes the idea of him leading Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition a bit of a joke.Originally Posted by Crandar
All the things I indicated in my last post, he said - including refusing to say "I condemn the IRA", he was happy to say the troubles were terrible and everyone was to blame, and to condemn the British Army for Bloody Sunday but he wouldn't say "and I also condemn the IRA".
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Tsipras was also supposed to belong to the far-left, being the idol of many delluded hippies from Spain to Italy, but he made quite a u-turn, when he grabbed the power. I have a feeling that the same is going to happen with his British version, too.
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