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    Even not one day! It didn’t even one day for the ones to come and say they deserved what happened.

    Superficially, it's the islamists/jihadists/muslems” I though you were a believer in new by youtube. The killer of Jews posted a video of him telling he killed in the name of Islam. The others were shouting Allah U’akbar, so the doubts are quite lifed in this case.
    Euroskeptics” All of them French born, so…
    Russia” as shown by the Ukraine Intelligence Service thanks to a message in social media they were the only one to see?

    it is morally right to do so.” So, like the jihadists, you decide what is moral or not?
    I don't go out of my way to make a mockery of Muslims' beliefs in the most outrageous and disrespectful ways, and I think that to do so would be morally wrong.” Why? Their belief can be ridiculed, as others beliefs were by Charle Hedbo, political included. Why do think Religions should be spared?
    I do not know about France” Well, it might be a shock, it is a right France had even during the Monarchies, i.e. Cardinal de Mazarin having sex with the Queen. News for you: offense of blaspheme doesn’t exist in France. So I can say what I what about all supra-naturel creatures and theirs followers and their fairies tales.
    Originally, free speech was at heart about allowing people to express genuine political/religious/personal beliefs.” Nope, Freedom of speeches was conquered with weapons and blood to allow the ones without right and voice to stand-up. Religion(s) being part of the oppressive forces, it is natural to attack them. Once upon a time it was Immoral to thing Maria was not a virgin...
    However, in this case, you have to notice that religious people being hurt by atheists are in their feeling, when atheists hurt by Religious people are dead.
    but they stand in law and in moral principle nonetheless.” Nope, only by the law based on the common good and a social contract.
    If anything, all they serve to do is reinforce the idea that all 'non-believers' are vapid and degenerate.” So, why kill them? Mohamed was married (more than once), had sex, so where is your problem with him having genitals?
    who doesn't share their fairly extreme views” Nope. One (survivor) said he vomit on the one pretending to be their friends when they did all what they could before to shut-down the Hebdo.
    “I mourn the loss of innocent life” Excepted they are not so innocent, were they?

    Having right for saying ANYTHING disregarding how much you may insult the others turns freedom into anarchy.” Having to be censured, accepting to be censured, lead you to dictatorships and Inquisition, and not the Dragon Age one.

    we allow cartoons of Prophets but not cartoons of child rape for example.” The last one is a crime, not the first one. Not any more, or not yet as it looks some want to go back to the Middle Ages, or this matter, the Dark Ages.
    Last edited by Brenus; 01-12-2015 at 20:27. Reason: sp
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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