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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    My own take, how can you expect any enlightement comming from muslims if political correctness will never alliow them to.
    What Charlie Ebdo has been and is doing is anything but political correctness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    What Charlie Ebdo has been and is doing is anything but political correctness.
    And I respect them because of that. I don't respect their new best friends.

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    Can you admire his pictures?” Yes.
    Can you call a think tank after Goebbels if you admire only his propaganda skills?” No.
    And who is to draw the line?” The law made by elected, representative Parliament, following a democratic constitution.

    Thus, if a dead person can't be put on trial, he is equally can't be declared guilty or not guilty. Still less by you.” Wrong. If a dead person was kill unlawfully, the person(s) who shoot will be prosecuted and put on trial. If not, the killing of the person was lawful, so the killed was guilty.

    thus a crime, racist remark is not.” Really? You don’t intent to be racist?

    If the latter was, the prisons would be full of such convicts.” Not really as Racists in France try (and mostly succeed) to hind it, as shown in the example of the mayor hiding his racism behind laicité. Le Pen family, especially the daughter is good at it as well.

    Violence is aimed at people who have NOTHING TO DO with Charlie Ebdo, unless sharing citizenship and/or confession.”: That shows the immense stupidity of the ones doing it, not the newspaper fault. It is very easy to stop violence, when you are the ones launching it. You just stop.

    Charlie Ebdo is reaping huge income”: Yeah, what piece of luck having their friends and collaborators killed…

    “if indeed Ukraine is to blame in suspending Mistral delivery” More than Charlie Hedbo for having been killed by obscurantist religious Muslim fanatics. CH shelled no cities, and killed no one.

    And I'm not on the staff of Charlie Ebdo, but if I were I would apologize to Muslims all over” That why you will never be Charlie. Apologizing to the killers and the mob, bowing, grovelling to calm the barbarians (and this is an insult to barbarians to be compared to this lot)…
    Hey, I’ve got an idea, why the 4 Jews’ families do not apologies to the Muslim mob as well? Well, without Jews, no antisemitism, so the Jews are guilty, no?

    She is Charlie:
    Latifa Ibn Ziaten is the mother of the Paratrooper Idris Ibn Ziaten, first victim of Mohamed Merah, coldly murdered aged 30 March 11, 2012 in Toulouse. Since then, Latifa Ibn Ziaten criss-crossed France, going to colleges and high schools, to advocate an islam of tolerance, say her attachment to the Republic and her pride for her son. Merah "killed him because he was military. He asked him to bow but my son remained standing. He had entered into the army to serve the Republic', she recently said.
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    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
    Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Can you admire his pictures?” Yes.
    Can you call a think tank after Goebbels if you admire only his propaganda skills?” No.
    And who is to draw the line?” The law made by elected, representative Parliament, following a democratic constitution.

    Thus, if a dead person can't be put on trial, he is equally can't be declared guilty or not guilty. Still less by you.” Wrong. If a dead person was kill unlawfully, the person(s) who shoot will be prosecuted and put on trial. If not, the killing of the person was lawful, so the killed was guilty.

    thus a crime, racist remark is not.” Really? You don’t intent to be racist?

    If the latter was, the prisons would be full of such convicts.” Not really as Racists in France try (and mostly succeed) to hind it, as shown in the example of the mayor hiding his racism behind laicité. Le Pen family, especially the daughter is good at it as well.

    Violence is aimed at people who have NOTHING TO DO with Charlie Ebdo, unless sharing citizenship and/or confession.”: That shows the immense stupidity of the ones doing it, not the newspaper fault. It is very easy to stop violence, when you are the ones launching it. You just stop.

    Charlie Ebdo is reaping huge income”: Yeah, what piece of luck having their friends and collaborators killed…

    “if indeed Ukraine is to blame in suspending Mistral delivery” More than Charlie Hedbo for having been killed by obscurantist religious Muslim fanatics. CH shelled no cities, and killed no one.

    And I'm not on the staff of Charlie Ebdo, but if I were I would apologize to Muslims all over” That why you will never be Charlie. Apologizing to the killers and the mob, bowing, grovelling to calm the barbarians (and this is an insult to barbarians to be compared to this lot)…
    Hey, I’ve got an idea, why the 4 Jews’ families do not apologies to the Muslim mob as well? Well, without Jews, no antisemitism, so the Jews are guilty, no?

    She is Charlie:
    Latifa Ibn Ziaten is the mother of the Paratrooper Idris Ibn Ziaten, first victim of Mohamed Merah, coldly murdered aged 30 March 11, 2012 in Toulouse. Since then, Latifa Ibn Ziaten criss-crossed France, going to colleges and high schools, to advocate an islam of tolerance, say her attachment to the Republic and her pride for her son. Merah "killed him because he was military. He asked him to bow but my son remained standing. He had entered into the army to serve the Republic', she recently said.
    I like the way you think. Je suis Charlie? No your not. Neither am I. It disgusts me how people are hijacking this nasty affair.

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