France Shoot-Out

[Gilrandir]

“WHERE DID I SAY THE KILLERS WERE OFFENDED BECAUSE THE QURAN SAID SO?”” And where did I say that? I wrote: “You explained that the killers have grounds”. You did, didn’t you?

Finally. You have made my life easier. I don't have to do much to answer you - just copypaste what I once said. So quote:
And I never said about THE KILLERS having grounds/reasons. I have to repeat again: I spoke of MUSLIMS having grounds to be offended unquote.
If for you KILLERS=(all) MUSLIMS, well, you have to sort things out for yourself.

“More than once you expressed your vehement dissatisfaction and disdain of holy books in general and of Quran in particular and pity and scorn of the people who use this opium (according to Marx) to poison their minds. If this (dissatisfaction+disdain+pity+scorn) doesn't amount to hatred than it was a wrong choice of word, but using DDPS every time would have caused even more problems with the sematically-minded you.” You really have to purchase a dictionary. And read Marx.

My reference to Marx was to justify the usage of "opium". You agreed to it. Poisoning of the whole system is the result of constant abuse of drugs and opium is one. Logically, those who resort to opium poison themselves. To make it clear for you: Marx said nothing about the poison, I metaphorically developed the statement he metaphorically worded.

I never really express pity for the followers of any faith, but if to have pity for someone is a bad thing in your world, it is not in mine.

Pity as a feeling is never a pure one. Being not a psychologist, but having some experience of analyzing fiction texts expressing emotions, I can identify at least two types of it: pity with admixture of compassion and pity with admixture of disgust. It is for you to decide which one you feel, but the latter is definitely a negative emotion.

So your well-prepare diatribe is just falling flat. Sorry. Nice try, mind you.

I'm glad you liked it. And one more positive emotion I got from your post is your picturing myself sorrounded by dictionaries, encyclopedias, selected (or even complete) Marx with a pencil behind my ear making notes, ticking passages in books and sucking hard at another pencil between my teeth trying to invent some excruciating comment to crash you.
I must dissappoint you (which you admit I always did, but I'm afraid I'll do it again), answering you doesn't take such a prominent place on the list of my mustdos. Yet it feels pleasant to know someone is thinking of you so much. Boy, I think I'm beginning to like this elusive communication of ours. Pinch me, someone.

Where did you find the concept of DDPS?

I invented it myself. Do you like it?

So your point is the killers had grounds but you don’t know which one. Fair enough.

See above on KILLERS=/=MUSLIMS

“You generalize that there was no reason for ALL OF THEM to feel offended”: Nope, I went in their texts, in the Quran (well to be fair, I read in French Muslim Scholars analyses and quotes). Now, that for political reasons and for political gains some Islamic Fanatics, after having put millions in the spreading of their version of Islam (and not the Quran), used a non-existent texts in order to justify criminal attacks is not new in politics and history, from the Russian Tsar and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to the weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, or the Horse Shoes operation in Kosovo. Pakistanis never heard of CH before, or the Afghans… So it was hard for them to be offended if no one told them to be offended.

Forget about books. It is humans who kill Frenchmen, not books that do. It is important what PEOPLE feel, think and do, not what the BOOKS say. When you realize that, you might have another take on the things. I really don't think you will, but, who knows, you might.

“Is it racism to claim that blacks have black skin?”: It is not was you said. You said that blacks have the same reaction as a group. You might be surprise, but black Americans do not have the same reaction than black French, German or African. To attribute reaction to groups based on race is racism. Religions not being a race, it is not racism, but again, all Religions are multiple as multiple than their lecture and their understanding of what is supposed to be the same book (I speak here of the common book with the same larger common denominator i.e. Christianity or Islam).

While it is not true to claim that ALL representatives of racial, soical, ethnic, religious groups have the same reaction, one can't deny the existence of behavioral patterns typical for the said groups (and expected by the memebers of these groups from other members) in response to similar stimuli.