Do you honesty think ISIS is a threat to Russia, declaring a state is probably the dumbest thing they could have done, there are going to be a lot of tears when Russia takes of it's silk gloves
Re: France Shoot-Out
Do you honesty think ISIS is a threat to Russia, declaring a state is probably the dumbest thing they could have done, there are going to be a lot of tears when Russia takes of it's silk gloves
Last edited by Fragony; 11-11-2015 at 15:17.
Re: France Shoot-Out
"Yet it is the first time that Russia suffered not from nameless terrorists (mostly of Chechen origin). Now the terrorists have a name on them - ISIS. And the more suffering is yet to come." I think ISIS gave the perfect opportunity for Putin to come back into Egypt, by the back door. In the mean time, the Syrian recapture one strategic point, if we have to believe news from Russia, which I tend to in this situation as US and EU would be so happy to show if it was a lie.
Point is Russia didn't suffer. Russian did. ISIS can't attack Russia and now, as Fragony pointed out, are probably waiting for incoming retaliations.
As more to come, perhaps, but France was attacked by Muslim terrorists. And they are only really one example of a successful terrorist succeeding his political aim: Gavrilo PRINCIP, and it took all the great willingness of the Central Empires to help him.
ISIS is destined to the bin of History, as soon as great powers will decide the play time is finish.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
"I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"
Re: France Shoot-Out
Apart from inflicting casualties in Syria ISIS can arrange some acts of terror within Russia or to Russians outside it.Originally Posted by Fragony
You mean again sending troops abroad? Russia can't digest what it brew in Syria, so it will hardly extend its Middle-East operation into Egypt as well.
Russians make the population of Russia, so eventually Russia is a sufferer. But you are probably right in believing that sufferings of a small group of Russians are not a great concern of Russia as a state.
And in terms of retaliation, it is a question who is expecting one - ISIS has been under attack (as Putin claims) so nothing is likely to change for it. It is Russia which is in for more fun.
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"It is Russia which is in for more fun." Perhaps, but the attack was made on Egyptian soil, not on Russia's. And ISIS lost grounds in Syria, even according tho BBC as Assad's forces retook (or unlocked) the siege of the Aleppo Airport.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...C0TGfzm7fuw.97
In the same time, Turkey shows the colours:
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/tu...own-1894959234
"Russia can't digest what it brew in Syria" On what news do you base your analyse?
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
"I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"
Re: France Shoot-Out
On the fact that 6 weeks after the bombings have commenced Russia is still there and no decisive victory is looming for it in the short run (I bet in the long run either). With the expenditures it has to cover and the ones to keep the pot in Donbas boiling it is unlikely to consider involvement into one more far away country which even doesn't have a Russian military base as a foothold to operate from.
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Russia doesn't need a military base in Syria. When the Shia militias of Iraq, Iran's revolutionary guard, Syrian army, and Kurds reduce IS to a roadside bombing insurgency, Russia can leave no sweat.
Last edited by AE Bravo; 11-12-2015 at 20:00.
Re: France Shoot-Out
"On the fact that 6 weeks after the bombings have commenced Russia is still there and no decisive victory is looming for it in the short run (I bet in the long run either)" Not really facts, more a wishful thinking....
The reality is Assad broke the 2 years siege on an important strategic point, that is quite an achievement in 6 weeks where USA lead coalition bombed now for 2 years without any success.
And due to this advance, the US have to do the same thing with the Kurd against Kobane, and the Saudis can't blocked it...
Putin using US Amy to gain prestige, at the same moment when Europe, the land of Democracy and Freedom is closing the door to Middle-East refugees...
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
"I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"
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