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    Default Re: [Official Testing] Updated EDU with all the "unofficial" fixes and many others

    Now people have had some time to play with these changes, what's the view of light cavalry speeds?

    They were definitely much too fast in the first couple of versions, but I think they're about right now. They should be notably faster than heavies, but not so fast they're like lightning around the battlefield. They should be able to outpace heavier cavalry, but not look like it's easy.
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    I've been playing with the AS, Carthage and Makedonia, none of them very rich in cavalry, but for the cases I've experienced, it seems ok for me.
    I have one question about the phalanxes: I've noted they have been reworked, but the mercenaries have very different stats, as if untouched. Is it intended to have weak mercenary phalanxes, or is it a little mistake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saigrin View Post
    I've been playing with the AS, Carthage and Makedonia, none of them very rich in cavalry, but for the cases I've experienced, it seems ok for me.
    I have one question about the phalanxes: I've noted they have been reworked, but the mercenaries have very different stats, as if untouched. Is it intended to have weak mercenary phalanxes, or is it a little mistake?
    All the phalangites are a work in progress - they've all got different stats trying out different things. So yes, it's not functional, but that's intentional.
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    Well, I don't know if this has been told yet, I'm talking again about my experience with the AS:

    The Ioudaioi recruits are using the model from the Thureoporoi, and the pantodapoi phalanx are way more efficient than their pehzetaroi comrades, for the only reason they do not switch weapons. In most battles, when facing an homogeneous army, as for example the Nabateans, when resisting a frontal charge against the same troops, the pantodapoi phalanx suffers notably less casualties than their greek friends. It's great to see the troop switch weapons, but I feel they do it too soon, and the entire unit suffers from having the formation broken.

    I only want to give some help, it's not a criticism.

    I hope to see more news from you soon, team, keep on fighting! :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saigrin View Post
    Well, I don't know if this has been told yet, I'm talking again about my experience with the AS:

    The Ioudaioi recruits are using the model from the Thureoporoi, and the pantodapoi phalanx are way more efficient than their pehzetaroi comrades, for the only reason they do not switch weapons. In most battles, when facing an homogeneous army, as for example the Nabateans, when resisting a frontal charge against the same troops, the pantodapoi phalanx suffers notably less casualties than their greek friends. It's great to see the troop switch weapons, but I feel they do it too soon, and the entire unit suffers from having the formation broken.

    I only want to give some help, it's not a criticism.

    I hope to see more news from you soon, team, keep on fighting! :D
    Observations, and even criticism are welcome - as I said it's all a work in progress. The Ioudaioi using Thureophoroi models is intended as a temporary measure, they'll have their own proper ones later.

    Stats for the Pantodapoi Phalangitai are different to the Pezhetairoi (indeed only the mercenary Pezhetairoi still have the same stats), so they will had different performance. We haven't yet found a workable solution to the secondary weapons issue with pikemen, but all this feedback is useful, so keep it coming.
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