Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
I can see the attraction of letting IS/Daesh exist to function as some sort of sinkhole that will attract people who don't want western society and who can therefore be missed like a sore tooth. Kind of like the world's toilet.

The problem is: "we" are never going to recognise Daesh as a sovereign entity for fairly obvious reasons. They claim territory from states that we do recognise and they're sure as hell never going to treat other states as peers, which is kind of a prerequisite for diplomatic recognition of any kind. This, and the fact that they're a bunch of murderous savages and all that.

I don't really see much value in stripping citizenship as a criminal punishment, anyway.
I don't see stripping citizenship as a punishment. I see it as a measure of protection from them, so they can never legally return here. If they sympathise with that lot, they will never have much in common with me, and will more than likely be a threat (the 7/7 bombings and the attempted bombing a few weeks later were in areas I frequent, just not on that particular day). I'm not going to interfere with their life over there, and I don't want them to interfere with my life over here.

As for claiming territory from sovereign states, they began life after we interfered in the likes of Iraq and latterly Syria, removing the dictators who were keeping their like in check. Saddam's gone, but Assad's still around, and it's not like any western government will be weeping if he complains about IS being recognised on his turf. Recognise them both, and let them duke it out for supremacy without involving us. Anyone who takes part will be fighting on behalf of one side or another whom we don't support. Whichever side they join, we'll be well rid of them.