Hello,

Just wanted to ask who made the search for lugionnes history.
And wanted to ask, what is the future of this faction ? Will lugionnes have reforms and cities with walls or will it be like this? thnx

Just wanted to say That i am lithuanian myself and descriptions about them isn't very true ;)

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The thing is, they weren't Lithuanians. It's always helpful to keep nationalism out of prehistory. Which descriptions are you referring to? In the game or in general?

I don't know of any settlement sites of the Przeworsk Culture that had walls, certainly not walled cities. In the game they have a very small reform already implemented, which upgrades some of the units from early to late versions. This will probably be refined and perhaps enlarged. Maybe even more regional units will be added. Although even in its current state it's a really fun faction to play as.

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Hmm, if they weren't Lithuanians, why do you use Lithuanian words for their troop names and region names?
Lithuanian language is the oldest language in the world or one of the oldest that survived into these days.. The position of lugioni tribe is indeed in Poland lands ( the starter position ) Poland language is like day and night from Lithuanian language and the Przeworsk word is indeed Polish. WHAT i mean by that, you used Polish AND Lithuanian languages at the same tribe( faction). Many dieties you involved into this faction is INDEED THOSE of Lithuanian pagan( baltic) culture NOT POLISH. So you included 2 completely different cultures and languages into the same tribe( faction) and this is historically innacurate. People who lived in Poland lands weren't Lithaunians and indeed DID NOT had these dieties like PERKUNAS THE Lithuanian PAGAN GOD OF THUNDER AND SKIES. Then goes GILTINE the diety of death same goes to SAULE ( WHICH IS A LITHUANIAN WORD AND MEANS "SUN") . Now troop type names : ASWINIAI CALVALRY ( sons of DIEVAS ) THe word DIEVAS is A LITHAUNIAN WORD which means GOD. Then there is a spear unit TAUTAGINOI which is written by EB2 team with mistakes it should be "Tauta gina" or " Gina Tauta " . Which means "defends the nation" All these words as LITHUANIANS we speak today. You used OUR words and made them with Polish letters w z. And for the last statement, LITHUANIAN language is very rare because it is very old( one of the oldest languages in the world) and OUR WORDS from those times when this language was born really not much changed, so i can safely assume that when i read through the content of history of lugionnes You used LITHUANIAN LANGUAGE. Because those words you used i understood, why i understood them? because their are Lithuanian words, and Lithuanians never lived in Polish lands, They were BALTS, and the word of province ESTUWA you used IS a REMAKE of Lithaunian Word of ESTIJA which was on that times non existent country which you can refer now as A Baltic Country Estonia. Same goes the for the word "Dan gus" EB2 team used for reffering "sky people" or so " Dangus" is indeed a lithaunian word witch means " Sky" and goddes "LAIME" which is a lithaunian word, Laime was lithaunian pagan goddes of happines, LAIME means happines. So from EB2 team perspective you refer that lugionni were some lithuanian tribe, witch i assume it wasn't, because of the location of the lugionni faction is indeed deep in Poland. And Polish people never had or will have those dieties. And i don't know for sure that baltic tribes( who's is direct ancestors of lithuanians ) were living in that area witch is Pwerweorsk.

I don't mean any harm for the project, i love this mod and you for making it. But try to make history right and don't involve into polish faction lithuanian dieties and troop names, those were baltic pagan lithuanians not the region the Lugionni represent as i see.

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Lithuanian is not oldest per se, it is rather conservative compared to what was the Indo-European language...

The Lougiones were a confederation of tribes speaking a West Baltic language, possibly related to Old Prussian. You may perceive similaries, like for example I do between Latin and Italian, but what is being used in EBII is a reconstructed pre-Satem West Baltic dialect. It also does not use any alphabet from modern languages, but attempts to convey a phonological transcription closest possible to the sounds of the period...

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Hello, I can call any lithuanian citizen to read the history of lugionnes and they will tell you the same. Those dieties you used for luggiones ARE indeed pagan lithuanian dieties. Why because every lithuanian knows that, and no one of Prussian or polish people really had those dieties, unless balts were migrating or assimilated with this so called luggioni tribe witch isn't true if i know my nations history. If the words you used for dieties for this faction is true.. then luggiones is pagan lithuanian ancestors, witch i doubt it really hard. And yes, lithuanian language is Indo-European kind of language that came form Sanskrit, and this language had very small changes per thousands of years until now, that is why by all scientists it is refered the oldest Indo-European language that survived to this day and changed very little. So as WE lithaunians speak this language today, it is very confirmed that balts and people form Asia spoke very simmilar as we have today in Lithuania. ;)

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The Lougiones shared a common Baltic religion, which Lithuanian Paganism is one of its descendants. Everything does not require direct lineage or migrations as an explainations, there existed a far older set of beliefs in the area...

That Slavic, Germanic and Baltic peoples much later in history caused the ethnogenesis of the Polish people is a completely different matter...

If you research Old Prussian mythology you will find a lot of deities, shared with the Lithuanian one. In the Neolithic much of the region was inhabited by people speaking a common Baltic language, out of which languages like Galindian, Sudovian, Prussian, Selonian, Semigallian, Latvian and Lithuanian emerged...

Overall, like you, I do not think that the Lougiones were the direct Lithuanian ancestors, but both the Lougiones and the Lithuanians have common Baltic roots :)

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