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I think not.
Well, if the carbon dating is wrong, what else is?

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See... you are on a slippery slope if you allow magic to enter the discussion. It would be case in point for any of the arguments in here. The sedimentary layers, the radio carbon dating, the agriculture - all answers appealing to magic.
God made the earth in 6 days - but by magic he sped up the processes needed to make it. In 6 days he magically took the earth through a 4 billion year process. All carbon dating is correct - its just that by magic - God made it all happen in 6 days. God created man as a hunter/gatherer and during untold years Adam & Eve could reap the fruits of the garden(s) - they were cast out and by magic - god made the earth hard to till. The earth would no longer yield her abundance and Adam and his posterity had to till the earth and make things grow to sustain the human family. Adam lived a thousand years after being expelled in which his posterity grew and spread out to all the corners of the earth (except the earth isn't flat and square).
He also split the red sea to allow the israelites to escape the egyptians and so on. And yes, Rhyfelwyr is apparently arguing that he did indeed create the entire universe in the timespan of 6 modern days 7000 years ago. The all powerful god the bible describes could do all the things you mention, he even flooded the entire earth and killed everyone but the guy in a huge boat to whom he sent pairs of all animals somehow magically. I mean all powerful is taken very literally, he also let fire rain onto a city or two in order to destroy it and kill everyone inside. Not exactly someone you'd want to mess with because he sets the standard for morality and does these things to people who do not listen while he rewards those who love him and his standards.

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During the creation of the universe - he magically placed light photons along the routes of all stars toward earth - so astronomers in the 20th/21st centuries could be deceived. Your God the great deceiver analogy is not painting a good picture of deity.
Neither was my assumption that he placed dinosaur skeletons in the varying layers of earth's crust, because where would you place the dinosaurs if earth is just 7000 years old? If god created humans back then and they were somehow civilized right away, why are there no human records of dinosaurs when there are records of plenty of other animals from early civilization? And why would he place skeletons at a depth below the surface where they couldn't end up naturally in 7000 years? Indeeed my point was that if you believe in the loving god who wants to be your friend and wants you to find him, it makes no sense to think that he would do that. So either the book is not very literal on the early days, our loving god did some weird things or my logic is failing me. Or you claim that the devil also has powers and did all these things to lead us astray because he is the great deceiver. But then you could still ask why god lets the devil do such things. At that point it tends to become pointless to even think about it...