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    Default Re: Does anyone even listen to creationists these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    The various crop + stock combos need to get from place to place, hence Eurasia being the powerhouse of civilisation. If Eurasia isn't hospitable enough, there is no spread of agriculture.
    Agriculture developed independently and at around the same time in Australia, Papua, the Americas and the Far East from what I have read.

    That it happened to lead to civilization in the ancient Near East is I believe to do with the requirements of hosting agriculture in such a place. Max Weber says a fair bit about this - building the irrigation canals in Mesopotamia that were necessary for agriculture meant people had to band together under leaders and develop a system of almost slave labour. This process didn't happen in places that could rely on rainfall etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    Agriculture developed independently and at around the same time in Australia, Papua, the Americas and the Far East from what I have read.

    That it happened to lead to civilization in the ancient Near East is I believe to do with the requirements of hosting agriculture in such a place. Max Weber says a fair bit about this - building the irrigation canals in Mesopotamia that were necessary for agriculture meant people had to band together under leaders and develop a system of almost slave labour. This process didn't happen in places that could rely on rainfall etc.
    A small note, around the same time in this context are more than 2000 years. While small on the huge time scale, it is still calling the birth of you and Jesus a co-current event.

    Another evolution thing. Most proteins are shared between species. That means that they do the same function, but are only similar in look. That's very stupid from an optimization viewpoint, but makes a lot of sense from a random chance and "good enough" principle.
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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