Clarkson gone!

[Greyblades]

Que?

Well, fringe, or maybe a person less prone to pedantry, I can't tell these days but oddly enough it is refreshing, I think I am going to enjoy this more than husar and ironside.

Everything affects human behavior. The time I spend as a kid playing a game called Civilization got me interested into history, geography, politics and economy, personally.

And did it give you an instictual hatred of Ghandi's india?
Did it make you believe that all the other nationalities in the world serve only as vassals or targets of conquest?
Because the idea that games like bayonetta encourages sexism is based upon the same logic that civilization encourages nationalism, and the idea of altering civilization to take out the nationalist "elements" is just as absurd.

Nonsense. Prejudices break all the time, when society awareness becomes large enough.

Perhaps a better word would have been preconceptions, less of the overly negative connotations prejudice has earned over the years as an accusation.

This reminded me of a conversation I had with some friends about Gay Pride parade in Serbia a couple of years ago. They were all understanding of gay people, at least that's how they tried to portray themselves but in reality were intolerant.

"I don't mind gay people, but why do they have to have a parade?"

That question is actually the reason why they have to have a parade. When we get to a point when a parade is announced and everybody goes "Meh, I don't care" and go about their business, that will be the last Gay Pride parade.

History is full of precedents. Whenever a movement is excluded from the main stream and ignored, it tends to radicalize.

When a group is fighting for equal rights under the law everyone who believes in equal rights cheers, but once the equal rights issue has ended in thier success and they go on to demand more, that people themselves change thier own views to conform with thiers, that's when the support evaporates.
People are entitled to thier opinion, despite the derision that phrase has endured, and when the only proof of the need for a parade is that people question "Why do they have to have a parade" instead of a legitimate injustice, the people doing it come off not as a wronged party but a bunch of agitators looking for any reason to protest no matter how petty

Not giving up until everyone thinks like you, tell me if you didnt agree with them, would you tolerate such things?
Would you tolerate without protest, say, a vegan group who wont stop protesting until everyone stops disagreeing that meat is murder? Or an animal Right's group that wont go away until everyone says they agree that fur and leather are evil? Or perhaps a Yugoslavian Nationalist who wont stop getting in your face?

Also, isn't, "meh, I dont care" only said when someone wants to ignore something?

And that would be wrong.

It assumes gamers play games because there is sexism in them.

Tell me, are you sure it is sexist because you could see it on your own or did you need someone else to explain why it is sexist? And if you needed for it to be explained to you, what makes you think the people who consume it are any more aware of the connotations? The Jack Thompson debacle put to rest the idea that games can affect behavior subliminaly so if they are not aware of it, why does it matter?

What you call sexist the rest of the world calls pandering to adolescence and immaturity in men, which despite the protests is not inheriently oppressive to women.

I don't care about Sarkeesian. Why are you under this assumption that this is about her? You don't like the messenger, so you're ignoring the message?

If the message is that male orientated games should be neutered to accomodate women then I most certainly have not been ignoring the message.

Strawman aside I dont see the interpriations of tropes as reason to edit games popular fiction shouldnt be censored to accomidate those the fiction isnt targeting and I find it abhorrant to shame creators into carrying out that censorship or to shame people for enjoying something that is literaly harmless.

I believe the problem is that the gaming industry does not produce enough material directed at women and needs to make more, the gaming industry can grow to accomidate that just like the movie industry and like the movie industry it does not have to ditch the stuff directed towards men to do it.

My understanding of the industry is that right now a large part of the gaming industry is geared towards men because men are it's main moneymaker, they concist of a majority of the consumer base and buy the most games. With time and encouragment the gaming industry can grow to accomidate womens interests as well but currently the female part of the consumer base is not large enough to make the same amount of money as the male. Most gaming devs wont make games if they would be unprofitable and to make female orientated games as profitable as male ones the gaming industry has to draw in more women into gaming.

That will be a slow process and the games that bring them in will still have to sell enough copies to keep the makers afloat and interested, and to do that the first projects will need to also attract some men just to break even.

You should care about sarkeesian because she is actively sabotaging this, attacking men's media with absurd assertions that games want the player "to derive a perverse pleasure from desecrating the bodies of unsuspecting virtual female characters" based on mere interpritation, combine that with a lack self control in exploiting tragedy and an attitude bordering on mysandry resulting in a talking head that alienates the consumer base and in doing so making the growth she apparantly wants harder to accomplish.

I would say you need a MLK to this Malcom X, but I fear malcom would take it as an insult.