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    Emperor Obama finally seems to have a deal with Iran on enrichment. May see some lifting of sanctions (or not)
    So is peace ready to explode in the Middle East or are we headed to the end of the world?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0MV07U20150404
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    Emperor Obama finally seems to have a deal with Iran on enrichment. May see some lifting of sanctions (or not)
    So is peace ready to explode in the Middle East or are we headed to the end of the world?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0MV07U20150404
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    Emperor Obama finally seems to have a deal with Iran on enrichment. May see some lifting of sanctions (or not)
    So is peace ready to explode in the Middle East or are we headed to the end of the world?
    Waiting to see oil prices plummeting. Good for Ukraine (with gasoline prices having rocketed after hryvnas'd substantial devaluation), bad for Russia and its defense (or rather offense) budget
    http://rt.com/business/russia-increa...spendings-702/
    which is again good gor Ukraine.
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    The prospect of further depressing oil prices is a fear here in Alberta, Canada; we share that with the Russians.
    Increased revenues for Iran with the lifting of some sanctions, feeds the fear of Iran flexing its muscle to influence Middle East politics.
    It seems that the prospect of putting the boots to Russia outweighs the fear of growing Iranian influence (at least for now)
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    Wild thought, maybe a more influential Iran ain't such a bad thing. They seem to be ripe for a next revolution, the green-wave failed but somemeting is cooking there, might just become our best friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Wild thought, maybe a more influential Iran ain't such a bad thing. They seem to be ripe for a next revolution, the green-wave failed but somemeting is cooking there, might just become our best friends.
    This is jumbled. What is your point?

    That another revolution is in the offing?

    That this current government is more amenable to negotiation?

    That the theocrats are slowly losing their hold on power?

    Your statement could have meant any of these...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    This is jumbled. What is your point?

    That another revolution is in the offing?

    That this current government is more amenable to negotiation?

    That the theocrats are slowly losing their hold on power?

    Your statement could have meant any of these...
    The people of the first revolution knew nothing but the Shah, the current generation know nothing but the islamic regime. The green wave was almost a second revolution that sadly failed. Google 'For Neda' and you'll see what I mean.

    edit, did it for you, this should be legal but I reported my post just in case it isn't https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F48SinuEHIk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    Waiting to see oil prices plummeting. Good for Ukraine (with gasoline prices having rocketed after hryvnas'd substantial devaluation), bad for Russia and its defense (or rather offense) budget
    http://rt.com/business/russia-increa...spendings-702/
    which is again good gor Ukraine.
    I think that, at some point in the future, you are going to realize that cheaper oil does not make all your problems magically go away.
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    Little doubt that Russia can finance all its wishes and dreams one way or another; it may come at the cost of crippling its' future options.
    An economically wounded Russia plays well in most Western nations, but the loss of value that Russia could bring to the world economy is problematic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    I think that, at some point in the future, you are going to realize that cheaper oil does not make all your problems magically go away.
    Where did you see me say that? I said that cheaper oil makes the outlook brighter and gives Ukraine some breathing space. But it definitely is not an answer to challenges Ukraine faces.
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    Little doubt that Russia can finance all its wishes and dreams one way or another
    If the oil prices continue to go down, Russia will have to choose the wishes it is able to cater to. And it may cut down on financing the Ukrainian wild goose chase in favor of other options.
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    Im really hoping that Iran turns peaceful, would love to see those warhawks get egg on their faces about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    Little doubt that Russia can finance all its wishes and dreams one way or another; it may come at the cost of crippling its' future options.
    An economically wounded Russia plays well in most Western nations, but the loss of value that Russia could bring to the world economy is problematic.
    Apart from very good anti-virus systems that don't have NSA backdoors... what does Russia supply that another nation (China, Germany, Saudi Arabia) cannot supply at a better value point?

    They have the same main problem as Australia in being for their size a primary producer for export dollars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    what does Russia supply that another nation (China, Germany, Saudi Arabia) cannot supply at a better value point?
    Little green men?
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