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    Heard the announcement this morning. Nauseating.

    Said prayers for them and the families. Simply horrifying.
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    This morning I watched the press session with the Lufthansa CEO. He was, to my ability to read body language (not a German speaker, so I don't know all the cultural norms there) sincere and earnest in his responses. Moreover, he had a look on his face that I have come to associate with a person experiencing heartburn but whose antacids aren't kicking in.

    Then this afternoon I heard a snippet from Merkel's address on the issue. I don't believe I have ever heard her sounding so emotionally affected by something -- though admittedly we only get limited exposure here to German political events.

    I am getting a sense that many in Europe are quite horrified by this event.
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    Of course we are horrified, it's horrible. The -alledged- guy who -alledgedly- did this is supposed to have had a mental breakdown, but that was years ago and he passed all psychological tests. Nobody seems to understand it, employers nor relatives, he seemed to be perfectly sane is what they all say. From the video's I saw the system is pretty foolproof, but systems can fail. That he was steadily breathing untill the impact doesn't really say anything either, it could really be an accident. I hope it was. Also bears mentioning that the fabricant of airbus-planes warned against a defect in certain models, this was one of them, that if a plane reaches a certain angle the software takes over and the pilot isn't in control anymore. There is a door at the front, what if it opened for some reason, pulling the plane in that angle. I am not going to draw any conclusions just yet.

    update: major fuckup. He didn't just have a mental breakdown, he was in a closed institution. People can fully recover of course but becomming a pilot? A tad risky I would say. Since when is the background of employers not checked anymore.

    People can fully recover so I'm waiting for me, can still be an accident but it at least looks bad. Not comfirmed: he might be a convert to islam.
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    There is one problem with the accident theory: The pilot didn't get into the cockpit.

    The cockpit door should have opened after 30 seconds if the copilot had passed out, unless the copilot actually denied the opening of the door. The following video explains it with some scenes that remind me of Harry Enfield sketches:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    There is one problem with the accident theory: The pilot didn't get into the cockpit.

    The cockpit door should have opened after 30 seconds if the copilot had passed out, unless the copilot actually denied the opening of the door. The following video explains it with some scenes that remind me of Harry Enfield sketches:

    Seen the video, but electrical systems can fail, ask any windows user. If the airplane has a certain angle manual control is shut off, I am still not sure if this was actually intentional, very likely it was but still not sure. The police found some stuff in his appartment but no word on what it is for now.

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    Latest I heard is that police found torn-up sick notes in his house that said he was unfit to work. Didn't mention what illness the sick notes spoke of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Seen the video, but electrical systems can fail, ask any windows user.
    It's a really bad idea to compare the systems on a multi-million-Euro airplane to a multimedia computer.

    And what Rhyfelwyr says, it seems like the copilot wasn't fit for work and went there anyway.


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    Swedish media report that it was a suicide... And he just took the others with him...

    He locked the other captain out, and crashed the plane.

    Also, he seems to have some type of illness... He was already "free of work" for healthcare reasons, but didn't inform his bosses and flew anyway... We all know what happened afterwards.

    Absolutely HORRIBLE...

    I have a mountaineer friend who used to work at the same ski school as me... He was/is part of the "rescue"... Handling dead people isn't exactly what normally comes with the job, but he said every qualified mountain guy in the vicinity went there at once, and called in their friends from around...

    So well, a thought for those unsung heroes... They don't even expect pay, they are volunteers...

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    You can probably scretch both things from my update, he apparently was never in a nuthouse, and if he was a convert also probably isn't true, he had a relation with a muslim girl but that's about it it seems.
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