Planecrash in France, developing story

[Montmorency]

Then there is your bizarre idea that Western societies' opposition to euthanasia is nothing to do with traditional ideas of the sanctity of life, but in fact is all about maximising productivity from citizens?

If you want my serious view, then it's not about "sanctity of life" either but a holdout from Christian morality concerning God's "ownership" of human souls.

Clearly, Western liberalism minus this particular influence would demand that the 'agency' and 'true will' of the passively-suicidal individual must be upheld. From tolerance, it's a short leap to pragmatism: much better for society to administer death in a systematic manner than to have to deal with "public fallout", so to speak.

[HopAlongBunny]

A tragedy.
Having dealt with depression coupled with work in transportation, the emerging explanation makes sense.
Caught in the U-Turn environment of thoughts of self destruction, being left alone in the cockpit; Motive, Opportunity, Desire!
Depending on how long the co-pilots condition lasted, you do eventually hit a wall; "while I can rationalize reasons to no do it just now, at least it would stop the *ing thoughts/dialogue/debate" silence, sweet peace.

The other aspect involves his position.
If he informed his employers, what reaction could he expect?
If your expectation is to simply lose your job; you shut-up and try to muddle through.
Not many countries, companies, employers have supports in place to aid people in his condition; where supports exist you can look forward to reduced earnings; a "file" on your condition that will follow you the rest of your life and the stigma that comes with being "not quite right"

Still a tragedy that it should come to this.

[Fragony]

I kinda wonder why his shrink didn't warn his employers, must be confidality, in hindsight easy to say but he knew there were risks. What if had been a technician at a nuclair plant.

[CrossLOPER]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32098578

"one day everyone will know my name"...would at times wake up screaming "we're going down".... "it is because he understood that because of his health problems, his big dream of a job at Lufthansa, as captain and as a long-haul pilot was practically impossible,"..."One day I'm going to do something that will change the whole system, and everyone will know my name and remember,"

Kind of sounds like an asshole.

[Montmorency]

Oh, that's just the typical mass-murderer profile. You know, workplace violence, school shootings, etc. - same idea.

[CrossLOPER]

Oh, that's just the typical mass-murderer profile. You know, workplace violence, school shootings, etc. - same idea.

What would be their equivalence of waking up screaming "we're going down"? This isn't just depression or extreme narcissism. This is a multi-tiered complex.

[Montmorency]

Yeah, that's implicit. Almost all these guys have both "personality" disorders and "affective" disorders.

[Fragony]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32098578


Kind of sounds like an asshole.

A psychoses ain't just a cold, waiting for the official reports but he should have never been there in the first place imho, missed the radar so to say and that is probably all circumstances that were never considered by anyone. Probably nobody nobody to really blame for this happening if you are being reasonable.

[CrossLOPER]

A psychoses ain't just a cold, waiting for the official reports but he should have never been there in the first place imho, missed the radar so to say and that is probably all circumstances that were never considered by anyone. Probably nobody nobody to really blame for this happening if you are being reasonable.

No arguing that. Well we don't have a definitive diagnosis, and will probably never will.

[Fragony]

Looks like it was exactly what it looked like, second black box rules out any doubt that it could have been an accident. It was pretty likely from the go of course, but it can always be unfortunate circumstances.

What a mess.