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    It seems that arguments in favor of protectionism have been made from all across the political spectrum, from right-wing, "free-market" types, to libertarians, to pro-labor old-school leftists, with examples from each on this very forum.

    All of these arguments are individually surprising, in that they invariably force those who make them into inconsistency with their own fundamental precepts.

    I think I finally understand why this particular issue provokes so much schizodoxy, and this understanding can be summarized with reference to the parable of the blind men and the elephant.

    This post, then, will not be concerned with individually drawing out the inconsistencies associated with protectionist rhetorics, but in the deeper question of how they have come about in the first place, across such a broad ideological spectrum.

    I'll keep it really simple:


    PART 1: WHAT HAS COME BEFORE

    Contemporary "free trade" has been a specific policy instrument toward two ends:
    a. State capitalism
    b. Geopolitical stabilization

    "State capitalism", as Clyde Wilson defines it: "a regime of highly concentrated private ownership, subsidized and protected by government."

    State capitalism is best epitomized by the United States Republican Party, in that it, for almost its entire existence, has been focused on diverting the energies of the federal/national government from specific policy issues of concern to the general population, to supporting a "court" system that links professional political agents with professional corporate-economic agents in such a way as to allow both to abet one another's profit at the expense of the larger national state and its inhabitants. The other major US party, the Democrats, have assimilated to this mode of governance in order to survive as a political body.

    In this aspect of "globalized" free trade, China and the USA have been both the most eager parties to initiate the necessary policies, as their leadership over time has stood to gain the most from these policies. Indeed, the Chinese population at-large, as well as the aggregate populations of similar developing countries such as India and Mexico, have gained considerably from foreign investment and the collateral rise in incomes and construction of infrastructure. The benefits to the developed partners in the free-trade relationship were mostly concentrated in the short-term. They were there, but the returns have rapidly diminished in the medium-term.

    "Geopolitical stabilization" is used in the sense that much of international relations since WW2, especially between neighboring countries and global powers, has been a means of creating economic, political, and social interconnections such that the burdens of modern international relations are reduced, particularly in regard to national defense. For example, it is not at all innovative to comment that the project of Europeanization on the Old Continent has had as its guiding principle the pacification of the Germanic world. However, even the relationships of the USA, Japan, and China to each other could be viewed from this perspective.

    Thus, one way to narrate post-war free-trade policy would be as indirect subsidies exchanged between sovereign states. However, from the state-capitalistic ideology, this is ultimately only a secondary consideration to the quasi-feudal dividends, what many might call institutionalized corruption of the highest order. Globalization of general human activity since the beginning of the Industrial Era is the crucial factor here, driving the transition of state capitalism from an inward-looking, and thus protectionistic enterprise to one that broadly supports the policy of free trade. The dilemma is just that, insofar as corporations have become "multi-national", they are simply "non-national", and thus have come to embody the Medieval stereotype of the cosmopolitan-yet-parochial itinerant Jew. It is no surprise that large banks especially are subject to criticism here. Economic actors formerly subordinated to one state and embedded within a relatively-homogeneous population in which they had incentive to invest through networks of patronage are now well into the process of becoming discrete extra-state and extra-national political units. Multinational corporations are in this way entities specialized in extracting and juggling state resources for the benefit of a professional and self-perpetuating class of non-national individuals...

    Protectionism is essentially coming back into vogue, especially as a populist issue, because the balance between state and corporate benefit has begun to shift too far in the latter's favor, resulting in corporate actors that are on paper - and in fact - more powerful than the majority of de jure state actors. Associated with this shift is mounting inequality between the professional non-national corporatists (and their direct beneficiaries) and the vast majority of national subjects. If in the decades following WW2 the world reached a level of (in)equality not seen since the transition of societies from hunting-gathering to agriculturalism, then in the decades since (c.f. the Conservative Ascendancy of the 1980s) inequality has come closer to early-modern levels that spurred widespread popular unrest across the (contemporary) developed world.



    PART 2: WHAT MAY COME (or, Free Trade is Indispensable)


    Even more succinctly than the first part:

    1. There is simply no way to maintain the world at its current level (or, for that matter, a higher level) of development without breaking down most (and soon enough all) trade barriers between traditional political entities.

    2. Free trade is not intrinsically detrimental in the long-term to national subjects - quite the opposite, in fact.

    It is the second point on which I would like to elaborate, though it is closely-related to the first. Free trade, I argue, is only harmful inasmuch as we allow it to be directed by non-national actors who parasitically thrive off the energies of national actors. My perspective is essentially a statist one, and so should only profoundly offend the most ardent libertarians and anarcho-syndicalists (though the whole edifice of modernism is their foe, so there is no helping them). If state-level actors could collaborate to form truly-effective global bounds on economic activity, and so present a sort of "unified front" towards existing multinational actors, then these would simply dissolve into the basic units of organized economic activity that compose them, with their efficiency provided for and guaranteed purely by the coordinated activity of sovereign states. In other words, state capitalism would be disestablished, and without even the need for pernicious and unwieldy levels of oversight that distress those who prefer small government, and international markets would naturally reorganize in such a way that efficient distribution of of goods and commodities would be maximized according to the principle of comparative advantage.

    The challenge is to frame debates around the world along the lines presented above, overcome national tensions per se, and, of course, overwhelm the tenacious and immanent political influence of non-national corporate actors in the governments of the great powers.
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    Whenever I read words such as "schizodoxy" in the first few lines, I just assume the writer is either a poser or have Aspergers... And then kind of move on to reading more interesting things...

    If you would step away from that high horse of yours, and present your case in international english, and not quite as long winded, I would be all ears though, as it sounds interesting...

    But the way you present it, GHAAA!!

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    Very well written Montmorency.

    I've been saying most of it for a while, if perhaps less succinctly.
    The multinational corporations are walking all over nation states because they can accumulate too much power and can play the political actors against each other. Some see this as some kind of "market" where the political actors should compete by lowering corporate taxes more and more, but that would not benefit anyone but the corporations themselves and undermines the point that corporations should benefit the people and not make them more miserable by undermining the funding that is necessary to have a functioning society.

    This has even led to the establishment of parasite nations as I like to call them, which thrive on the idea of undercutting their neighbors and making up for it by keeping all the negatives of globalization out. Think of nations such as Ireland, Luxembourg or Switzerland. Ireland and Luxembourg undercut the taxes of neighboring countries but profit from the larger markets that their neghbors willingly provide to all the corporations that pay their taxes in Ireland or Luxembourg. Meanwhile the large countries next to Luxembourg cannot afford to lower their tax rates without completely abandoning large parts of their populations, parts (poor people) that countries like Luxembourg usually try not to let in by inflating all prices or curbing immigration (where possible) so that only the rich can afford to stay there. In other words they manipulate the "free trade" by shoving all the responsibilities off to their neighbors while they pick and attract the profitable parts.

    It should not come as a surprise that only smaller countries can thrive with this model, though that's not to say that all small nations can and do profit in this way. Russia also has relatively low flat taxes and their road network is legendary for how well it is maintained while we probably all agree that it has found just the right balance between wealth and poverty.

    Switzerland on the other hand will gladly profit from the money that torturers and oppressors bunker there. Yes, there are some benefits for Swiss citizens, it may even be a great country for its own citizens but part of that is pretty much literally built on the blood of Africans who work as slaves in diamond mines, on the blood of North Koreans who suffer away in gulags and probably a lot of South Americans who were killed for holding the "wrong" political views. Not to forget that they offered a safe haven for rich people who weren't satisfied with paying lower taxes in Luxembourg and Monaco and would rather pay no taxes to anyone, thereby increasing the tax burden on those of their "fewllow citizens" who could not afford to bunker money outside the country. Which also brings us back to the "non-national" individuals who just exploit the so-called "free trade" for their own means.

    I'm usually in favor of a more open world, I'm just a bit "annoyed" that it seems like the wealthy profit from it a lot more than everyone else does at the moment, which is partially because they can play the individual nations against eachother.

    If anyone wants video evidence, we have John Oliver on Tobacco companies:


    The Young Turks on Argentina's default and predatory hedge funds:


    John Oliver also tackled that one, not sure I should link it since it seems to be from the parts of the show not officially released and cannot be found on youtube anymore.

    And here's an article that I will draw selected, biased quotes from:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles...reedom-fighter

    How does a New Yorker help tip over the second-largest economy in South America a few weeks before his 70th birthday? By being stubborn, self-righteous, clever, and willing to take his decade-long fight against the country to a Las Vegas court, a Ghanaian seaport, weapons warehouses in Maryland, and at least two rocket launches.
    [...]
    “He finds a country in distress, he buys its debt, he demands full payment, and he doesn’t care about the economics, the poverty, the circumstances of the country,” says Mark Cymrot, who represented Peru and is head of BakerHostetler’s international disputes group. “From his point of view, he would say, ‘What’s wrong with it?’ And you’d have to say he’s right. But I wouldn’t want to earn money that way myself.”
    This may be a long and confusing post to basically say that I agree with the OP, but that's what I'm trying to say.
    And I added a bit about countries that take advantage of this.


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    First of all, “free” market is protected. Protected by layers and layers of laws and protected by armed forces when needed.

    For example, it is not at all innovative to comment that the project of Europeanization on the Old Continent has had as its guiding principle the pacification of the Germanic world.” This could have been achieved with a more ancient way of dealing with aggressive countries.
    What you describe as Europeanization of the Old Continent was the pursuit of what was started after the WW1 and research of political solutions to European Countries. In the aftermath of WW2, Germany could not deny having being defeated, and this time the Allies were much more harsher than the 1st time: Occupation forces, Military parades in Berlin, complete eradication of German administration, taking over of economy, printing money and all Sovereign States powers, no negotiations, and legal procedures against former leaders, parts of the former state organisation declared illegal and criminal. After this, it was possible to try a new way to deal with Germany, and it was not from equal to equal like after the WW1. Germany had no say in it.
    The second aspect was from leaders of some European countries the will to do so. The idea was roughly to avoid a 4th war between France and Germany, 2 of them ending to be World War. And this was a political move to create a common market, starting by European Coal and Steel Community based on the Paris Treaty (1951) to “make war not only unthinkable but materially impossible”.

    as a populist issue” Define populist, please, before I start to answer this, as populism is nowadays use by media and politician celebrating pain and suffering imposed on population against the ones who think there are other ways than to make the rich richer. And probably more efficient as you really see the result of the ones actually implemented.

    There is simply no way to maintain the world at its current level” Do you mean by this the actual level is satisfying enough to ignore the deadly threat it poses to the most vulnerable (and the vast majority) of the world populations (in other words, to kill Brazilian farmers in order to take their lands in order to feed as)? Or to buy the food for the ones who produce it as we can pay more than the locals, making it more profitable for the small capitalists landowners to sell to us than to feed their own?

    long-term” Define long term: 7 years of austerity and Free market rules have produce only 7 years of misery and huge unemployment for Greece. So what is your length of time for “long term”?

    In other words, state capitalism would be disestablished, and without even the need for pernicious and unwieldy levels of oversight that distress those who prefer small government, and international markets would naturally reorganize in such a way that efficient distribution of goods and commodities would be maximized according to the principle of comparative advantage.” So, in term of debate, you narrow it to “let’s agree I am right” principle. Fair enough…
    The problem with it is that reality shows and showed that “free” market is not working without huge amount of military persuasion. So the “natural” reorganisation is not THAT natural.
    And the "market" de facto goes for short term profit. Investments are actually lesser than dividends, and market ignores completely the balance in exploiting resources, naturals or humans, as shown in ecological disasters and in level of living in the vast majority of World Countries.
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    You read that with a completely different slant than I did, Brenus. The way I understood Montmorency, he is saying that the laws that regulate the markets worldwide need to be more unified and that we need to find a way to prevent politicans from catering to corporations because those corporations wield more power than the politicians in some cases and can turn the politicians into "helpers" for their [the corporations'] cause, i.e. what Monty calls state-capitalism. I don't really see the argument for a completely "free" market where corporations can do what they want. Quite contrary to that, the last sentence seems to make it clear that government should be decoupled from corporate interests, assumingly in order to make government oversight over the market effective again and in turn make the market more fair for all who partake. Maybe Monty can clarify whether I understood that correctly?


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    Hmm. I though of it. However, it seems to be a contradiction in terms with free market and regulated market, as the laws are of course all made by States with different agendas and interests.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

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    Russia also has relatively low flat taxes and their road network is legendary for how well it is maintained

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