Clarkson gone!

[InsaneApache]

o tempora o mores

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32052736

Well they finally shot the Goose that lays the proverbial, so what now? It doesn't look good...



If he did punch the lad then he had to go. Any employer would have no choice, however the Beeboids at the top have had it in for him for a long time. He just delivered his head on a platter for them.

Well that's my Sunday night buggered.

[Fragony]

Mixed feelings, the BBC have been covering up much worse things. If he abused someone he is rightfully fired, but just about everybody and their dogs and cats at BBC knew about the sexual abuse of minors of that Glitter guy.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I love how much of a dick the interviewer was there.

As IA said, they've had it in for his for years and, to be brutally frank, I hope they sacked the executive who compared him to Jimmy Saville (if that was actually said).

I also wonder why he punched the producer - they make regular jokes about "The producers" and if they can't provide hot food at the end of a working day I do wonder about their competency. The most interesting thing is that Clarkson reported himself and it looks like, had he not, this would have been covered up - by the victim.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32052736

It's a weird case, to be sure.

[Beskar]

He was babied and pampered for being the 'goose'. Anyone else would have been sacked ages ago, the BBC finally grew a pair.

Plus, when do producers produce hot food to someone rolling in money? He couldn't be bothered to pick up a phone and order takeaway? It is a lazy and sad excuse of being in a privileged position.

A nurse can be disciplined for using a sachet of salt, but it is slap-up meal for him or he makes a producers life a living hell with them getting thoroughly insulted, humiliated and punched by Jeremy Clarkson. The latter is seen as perfectly acceptable.

Logic.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

He was babied and pampered for being the 'goose'. Anyone else would have been sacked ages ago, the BBC finally grew a pair.

Plus, when do producers produce hot food to someone rolling in money? He couldn't be bothered to pick up a phone and order takeaway? It is a lazy and sad excuse of being in a privileged position.

A nurse can be disciplined for using a sachet of salt, but it is slap-up meal for him or he makes a producers life a living hell with them getting thoroughly insulted, humiliated and punched by Jeremy Clarkson. The latter is seen as perfectly acceptable.

Logic.

Nobody said it was acceptable behaviour, they said the BBC was out to get him.

As to when do producers lay on food? How about always? The producer is supposed to run the production, which includes feeding the cast saying "Oh he should order takeaway" is just excusing the producer being sloppy. That doesn't excuse Clarkson's behaviour, but even Clarkson hasn't tried to excuse his behaviour, hell he reported himself, the producer he assaulted apparently tried to keep it quiet.

There's clearly been something else going on behind the scenes, this wasn't about hot food, that was just what made Clarkson flip out.

[a completely inoffensive name]

It was a good tv show. He really fucked up though.

[CrossLOPER]

I think you rather miss the point, nobody's saying that GTA turns the average player into a sociopathic killer, the argument is that it fosters a callous attitude to other people, especially women.

Does playing GTA turn you into a callous neckbeard, or does being a callous neckbeard turn you to GTA?

It's like in Crusader Kings II when the game asks you to consider "should I kill newborn Henry and then his Dad so I can inherit the throne".

It's not a healthy thought process, if you emotionally invest in games (many gamers do) then it raises questions about whether you should be confronted with/offered such choices.

Kinda like you are confronted with difficult choices IN REAL LIFE? I guess we wouldn't want anyone developing critical thinking skills in a simulated environment. Also, the middle ages were well know for being kind and completely lacking in morally questionable actions taking place.

In Mass Effect the well written female character all have fantastic buttocks, all wear skin tight pants and are often shot from behind, at waist level, when talking to the PC.

I was kind of with you until:

When was the last time you saw a fat female character in a computer game who have significant dialogue?

About as many times I saw a fat male character have anything significant to say. Wait, I have one for that. There was this serial killer/rapist in SWAT 4. He went quietly mumbling something about "his darlings". I assume he meant the teenager I dug out of his dungeon and the other lady tied up on the mattress.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Does playing GTA turn you into a callous neckbeard, or does being a callous neckbeard turn you to GTA?

GTA 3 was the last game I played, there were three standout "clutter" NPC's in the game, ordinary citizens you could rob, kill etc - they were the hooker, the homo and the old guy in the trenchcoat.

The game rewarded you for beating these people to death and not getting caught.

Kinda like you are confronted with difficult choices IN REAL LIFE? I guess we wouldn't want anyone developing critical thinking skills in a simulated environment. Also, the middle ages were well know for being kind and completely lacking in morally questionable actions taking place.

In my country, I have never asked myself if I should kill my uncle or cousin for his share of the family fortune. To be fair most of the family fortune is gone and I'm the only son of our Patriarch anyway, so maybe me cousin is plotting to kill me.

What do you think?

About as many times I saw a fat male character have anything significant to say. Wait, I have one for that. There was this serial killer/rapist in SWAT 4. He went quietly mumbling something about "his darlings". I assume he meant the teenager I dug out of his dungeon and the other lady tied up on the mattress.

Fat car mechanic/mobster who issues missions in GTA 3, fat PC in Fable I (if you choose) fat NPC boss (Twin Blade) also in Fable I..., Fat Inkeepers and thugs in The Witcher, fat noble in the opening to the Witcher, Fat brother in Freedom Fighters, Mario in Mario....

Top 25 fat guys in games: http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/20...guys-in-games/

How much more do you want?

[Greyblades]

Top 25 fat guys in games: http://uk.complex.com/pop-culture/20...guys-in-games/

How much more do you want?

Yeesh, that list is painful, half of those are so one note as to barely count as characters. And really? The best fat character list doesnt have LA Noir's Rusty or Heavy Rain's Scott Shelby?

Christ man if you're going to make a point fine just dont use a list whose first shown character isn't fat.

[CrossLOPER]

GTA 3 was the last game I played, there were three standout "clutter" NPC's in the game, ordinary citizens you could rob, kill etc - they were the hooker, the homo and the old guy in the trenchcoat.

The game rewarded you for beating these people to death and not getting caught.

Yes. It's almost as if there is some sort of goal or challenge in this game. Quite unusual for games to have goals or challenges flavored to match the setting.

In my country, I have never asked myself if I should kill my uncle or cousin for his share of the family fortune. To be fair most of the family fortune is gone and I'm the only son of our Patriarch anyway, so maybe me cousin is plotting to kill me.

What do you think?

I think you somehow managed to sneak nationalist elitism into a conversation about a game where inbred medieval monarchs conspire offing each other.

What would you have them do?

I'll take anyone as long as the person writing it is likely to tell a good story and not sacrifice quality to make a point.

This is why this will never work. The only game I have ever played where homosexuality/bisexuality was inserted in a non-obtrusive way is Phantasmagoria 2: A Puzzle of the Flesh. That is pathetic.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I think you somehow managed to sneak nationalist elitism into a conversation about a game where inbred medieval monarchs conspire offing each other.

What would you have them do?

I have to amuse myself somehow, but my point stands. None of us is going to be standing in for King Herod any time soon, so there's little the game has to teach us which is relevant to real life.

Unless, like me, you enjoy creating a kingdom of Peace and Love whilst everyone else collapses into fratricidal infighting.