Now, these are not terrorists, right? Just your average muslim refugees...

[Sarmatian]

Kads is just being realistic and calls a spade a spade. Islamapolgists just keep looking for relativation. The worst thing about that is that you probably know you are bullshitting yourself.

Problem is that both you and Kads are refusing to look at actual statistics. For example, when it comes to Intentional Murder rates, first 20 countries are all predominantly Christian.

It has much more to do with poverty and education than with religion.

[Kadagar_AV]

Problem is that both you and Kads are refusing to look at actual statistics. For example, when it comes to Intentional Murder rates, first 20 countries are all predominantly Christian.

It has much more to do with poverty and education than with religion.

Eh...

Have I ever... I mean like... Ever... Left out the ethnical or cultural perspective?

I would argue quite the contrary, that if it's one person on these boards who have shine some lights on these issues it would be me

[CrossLOPER]

Have I ever... I mean like... Ever...

Most of your posts are overly dramatic and take an innocently defensive stance whenever you are not trying to be edgy, so it is hard to really pick out what is what.

[Kadagar_AV]

Most of your posts are overly dramatic and take an innocently defensive stance whenever you are not trying to be edgy, so it is hard to really pick out what is what.

Just... Take the words at face value?

It sounds like an easy thing to do, but I have noticed that people are vehemently against it, as most are coded by media to react to cues instead of thinking themselves.

My words mean exactly what I mean to tell... If YOU start to read things into it, it's your problem (and I will deem you an idiot because of it), not mine.

[Husar]

Just... Take the words at face value?
[...]
My words mean exactly what I mean to tell... If YOU start to read things into it, it's your problem (and I will deem you an idiot because of it), not mine.

That's exactly the problem, so then I read this:

Muslims sure seem to have a habit of terrorism.

And you say they have a habit of, which means: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/habit

customary practice or use
[...]
a dominant or regular disposition or tendency; prevailing character or quality

and I say it's rubbish because it is not a prevailing characteristic of muslims to use terrorism.
And then we get this:

I meant exactly what I said, muslims have a terrorism problem [...]

Which is a statement I would rather agree with (not counting the part I left out) but not exactly the same as having a habit no matter how long you claim to be consistent or accurate in what you say.

[Sarmatian]

It sounds like an easy thing to do, but I have noticed that people are vehemently against it, as most are coded by media to react to cues instead of thinking themselves.

At face value, this means: Anyone who disagrees with me is an indoctrinated drone.

[Fragony]

Most of your posts are overly dramatic and take an innocently defensive stance whenever you are not trying to be edgy, so it is hard to really pick out what is what.

Really easy, it's called being realistic.

[CrossLOPER]

Really easy, it's called being realistic.

This is a subjective statement.

[Kadagar_AV]

They have a habit of...

They have a problem with...

Was that the origin of your confusion Husar?

Regardless, I hope I explained my perspective perfectly clear now at least :)

[Fragony]

This is a subjective statement.

Not liking you personally is realistic as well.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Well, these are overloaded boats in the most part, and most folks don't handle such things like Guggenheim.

Typically, the persons most like you are the ones you protect, those least like you the first to be tossed. That's been true of most cultures throughout history -- terrorism doesn't enter into it particularly.



The real answer is for the EU to send an occupying force to Libya in order to establish security while a stable, institutionalized democracy takes control of the country.

[CrossLOPER]

Not liking you personally is realistic as well.

No need to get emotional.

You views are subjective. A more appropriate term would be myopic. You constantly complain about how Islam is an evil problem and cite countless anecdotes and second hand narratives. You take in events and fit them to support your views. You seem to be incapable of really dissecting issues and rely on generalizations and circumstances and posit them as undisputed fact.

Most of the arguments you've had over the years boil down to meme-like constructs where racists try to "prove" the inferiority of blacks by posting pictures of mudhuts somewhere in the middle of African tribeland and then post a marvelous European baroque structure from its period, completely ignoring the horrid squalor most citizens lived in during that time period.

Point is, its seems to me that you aren't seeing the big picture.