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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I'm only halfway through, but so far I like how he explains things. I'd say it's what I always said but then again I'm not as eloquent as he is and he has a few interesting perspectives on things. The trickle up of wealth is well-explained, as well as the need for constant growth that becomes so obvious in Japan. I am curious now what he will say about other systems and if he offers a solution. So far it was well-worth seeing, although I skipped his early explanations about where he works and who to thank or whatever he said.
    Of course you like him, to Germans he sounds like a garden-variety SPD or Die Linke candidate. By USA standards that's closer to the radical fringe than it is in Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Of course you like him, to Germans he sounds like a garden-variety SPD or Die Linke candidate. By USA standards that's closer to the radical fringe than it is in Europe.
    Actually a lot of what he criticizes about political parties working in favor of the rich would also apply to many SPD candidates. Remember when Gerhard Schröder greenlighted a pipeline, then lost his job as Bundeskanzler and then magically reappeared as a board member in the company for which he greenlighted the pipeline? Sometimes you don't even have to make the conspiracies up...


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    Sanders is now ahead in Wisconsin in all three of the latest polls. It also looks like some voters are coming off the fence in support of Sanders in New York (except from the strange Emerson poll, Clinton's support there has been rather steady), helping to close the gap there.
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    Sanders won in Wyoming, excluding the "Super Delegates" pledged to Clinton that has whittled her lead down to 250, and the Dems have 291 Delegates up for grabs on 19/04/16 in New York. Depending on how Sanders fairs then we could see a radical shift in the Democratic race and once Sanders overtakes Clinton in the "bound" Delegates you can expect her "Super Delegates" to start to melt away, though not instantly.

    If Sanders wins the Nomination and Trump comes out for the Republicans then I think Sanders has a better than even chance of winning.
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    Huma Abedin is hot.

    That's all for today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
    Huma Abedin is hot.

    That's all for today.
    Concur, but have some doubt as to her judgment -- because Weiner is, well, a bit of a wiener.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    Sanders won in Wyoming, excluding the "Super Delegates" pledged to Clinton that has whittled her lead down to 250, and the Dems have 291 Delegates up for grabs on 19/04/16 in New York. Depending on how Sanders fairs then we could see a radical shift in the Democratic race and once Sanders overtakes Clinton in the "bound" Delegates you can expect her "Super Delegates" to start to melt away, though not instantly.
    Im predicting a loss for Sanders, and it could be a big one. Its a closed primary, and demographically hes at a huge disadvantage. Hes leaving the country to visit the Vatican just days before the NY primary, a huge mistake really. Maybe he thinks that it will bolster him among Catholics, but Im reading that he wont be meeting the Pope and its only for a very short talk. Seems very pointless. Combine that with his obvious animosity towards the NY financial sector plus how the substantial liberal Jewish community in NY doesnt like him for a number of things, his stance on Israel being the most prominent.

    As for the superdelegates, dont count on them switching even after the past seven wins. It will take something bigger than that, like winning NY and California. Hillary is still winning by well over two million popular votes. To illustrate this, the seven states he just won are something like 20 million people combined. Florida, which Hillary won by 30%, is also 20 million people. Just to get some perspective.
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    Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences invited him But according to Margaret Archer, the president of the Pontifical Academy, it was Sanders himself who "made the first move two or three days ago," showing "monumental discourtesy" in breaching standard protocol for Vatican invitation requests.

    "Sanders made the first move, for the obvious reasons," Archer claims. "I think in a sense he may be going for the Catholic vote, but this is not the Catholic vote and he should remember that and act accordingly — not that he will."

    Archer's claim, however, was contradicted the same day by a senior Vatican official, who asserts Sanders was in fact invited by the Vatican to speak at the April 15 conference. "I deny that," stated Msgr. Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, speaking of Archer's comments. "It was not that way."

    Sorondo is the chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences and a close adviser to Pope Francis.

    Monsignor Sorondo also went as far as to say it was he himself who had invited Sanders. "We are interested in having him because we have two presidents coming from Latin America [for the conference]. I thought it would be good to have an authoritative voice from North America." Sorondo additionally notes the invitation was extended "[q]uite some time ago."

    The monsignor's claim is being supported by the Bernie Sanders campaign, with spokesman Michael Briggs calling Archer's comments "categorically untrue."

    "The invitation came to the senator from the Vatican," Briggs asserts.

    Papal spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi also states Sanders has been invited, but the spokesman attempted to distance Pope Francis from the event. "For the moment there is no expectation that there will also be a meeting with the Pope."
    "I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event.

    He said it was his idea to invite Sanders.

    A Bloomberg report quoted Margaret Archer, president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, as saying that Sanders had broken with protocol by failing to contact her office first.

    "This is not true and she knows it. I invited him with her consensus," said Sorondo, who is senior to Archer.

    The move has faced much backlash from faithful Catholics, as Sanders adamantly supports both abortion and same-sex "marriage." It is difficult, leading pro-life proponents claim, to criticize Catholic universities such as Georgetown and Notre Dame for inviting pro-abortion advocates like Joe Biden and Cecile Richards when Rome openly allows Sanders to be given such an honor. And then Bernie releases statement "delighted to have been invited by the Vatican to a meeting on restoring social justice and environmental sustainability to the world economy."

    Very odd indeed! Maybe the Pope did invite him. Never seen the Pope get so involved in American politics before First he's saying Trump is not a Christian and now this. Plus to discuss social justice and socialism at the Centesimus Annus, an encyclical celebrating the collapse of Communism, what is this the Frankfurt School of critical theory now? Social Justice? Strange times
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