Trump 4 16.67%

Hillary 10 41.67%

Johnson 8 33.33%

Stein 2 8.33%

Interesting that you say that Trump is pretty harmless for Europe, especially when he would basically wreck NATO.

That a problem, Trump isn't interested in pissing of Russia, wants better relationships. The Nato is nothing without America, if America isn't taken for granted then maybe it's a good idea to start giving the military acceptable stuff. No joke, even special forces here who are about to be send somewhere have no ammunition to train with, they have to say 'bang bang' in shooting excersises, all extremily modern tanks were sold because they happened to be worth a lot and the government needed money to safe banks.

We aren't keeping our promises to the Nato, only a marginal part of the deal is met, Trump saying 'you are on your own now' is good. Enough freeriding, not so unreasonable imo

He wrote "The Art of the Deal" not "Lafayette Go Eff Yourself."

What he wants is 1) votes from people who are tired of us paying for/bleeding most on the War on Terror, and 2) NATO to up its Funding for and troops deployed to the various NATO involved efforts including the anti- ISIL/ISIS/DASH/Whatever it is this week.

Threatening to wad it up and throw it away is his opening bargaining stance.

Y'all seriously need to learn what "staking out a position" is. Read the art of the deal.

there are more Palestinian flags at the dnc than American ones. Why should any American vote democratic?

Yes, just like "Making America Great again", just wait for the final compromise...

As I see it Trump is really apolitical, and has very little patience with those who are not. Especially now that the truly scary Hillary, false, fake, backed and funded by really dubious people, is the democrat's choice I really hope that Trump is going to win

Did you also feel the Bern?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_War

Don't bother quoting the articles, I know what they say.

Threatening to wad it up and throw it away might work for his business deals, but international relations is a whole different ballgame that Trump doesnt have a clue what hes talking about. In the current NATO mission in Afghanistan, almost half of the forces in theater are European NATO allies or partner nations. The other half are US forces. NATO allies have lost over 1100 personnel in Afghanistan, with the Danes suffering the highest percentage of casualties of any ally, even the US. In Syria and Iraq, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Poland, the United Kingdom (and soon the Czechs) are flying anti-ISIS missions. On the ground with advisers & trainers in Iraq preparing Iraqi & Kurdish forces, you have Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Spain, the United Kingdom, and soon the Czechs as well. In the Libyan operation, it was NATO allies who were leading, not the US. Last I recall, the Danish actually flew more missions and dropped more ordnance than the US did. Yes, the US takes the lead in most of the NATO missions because we have the biggest military by far. But thinking that NATO allies dont do their part is just false.

Since 2014, NATO allies have agreed to halt defense cuts and now many NATO allies are in the process of rebuilding their defense budgets and forces, even the Germans (though apparently the Dutch have a ways to go). NATO is probably the most successful military alliance in history because there wasnt doubt about if allies would come to the aid of others allies when attacked. Threatening to walk because you dont get everything you want is not a recipe for a healthy alliance. Trump has said similar things about leaving the WTO which would also be disastrous.

Preacher, meet choir.


Trump, as most folks with business backgrounds, think that diplomacy as practiced is a silly waste of time and think they CAN do better deals by using the strategies known and familiar to them.

I said that was WHAT Trump was doing, not that it was a good idea.

Sorry, couldnt tell what your position was...

I would just add that I really don't think Trump is anywhere near the successful business man he makes himself out to be. What he got was a big inheritance from his dad and what he is is a brand. He licenses his name to anyone who'll pay for it- that's basically his business model in a nutshell. His finances may be even worse that we think, considering his refusal to release tax returns.

Also, 'The Art of the Deal' was ghost written- Trump didn't write it.

If he is succesful at being a brand he's a succesful businessman. It would be good to have an outsider for a change I think, I bet it makes a whole lot of people really nervous if someone relatively free of the interests of lobbyists gets a go.

Also here's a "Sure she's bad, but you have to vote for her or else Trump will win" for you.

The current speculations on Trump's connections/dependency to the Russian oligarchy makes this a questionable statement.