POTUS Election thread

[Husar]

Bing bing bong bong, just good that this doesn't affect me at all.
I hope he withdraws from NATO, that way we can also disband the EU and......
ALL HAIL COMRADE PUTIN!
Did you hear that Steven Seagal was given Russian citizenship by Putin?

[HopAlongBunny]

[Sarmatian]

I think it's fitting the election that looked more like a reality tv show to be won be a reality tv star. Another glass ceiling shattered. Now get ready for the first female president, Kim Kardashian in 2024.

[Montmorency]

Bing bing bong bong, just good that this doesn't affect me at all.
I hope he withdraws from NATO, that way we can also disband the EU and......
ALL HAIL COMRADE PUTIN!
Did you hear that Steven Seagal was given Russian citizenship by Putin?

Also, a respectable reaction from the Fark comments:

We elected a black president twice. I truly believe that Trump supporters have concerns larger than only race. Dismissing them as solely racists is the kind of thinking that leads to losing an election you thought was in the bag eight hours ago. Sound familiar?

I think Trump voters feel like their jobs and opportunities are dwindling. They feel like immigrants, black people, and LGBT people are making all the progress and they are being left behind. We may disagree and argue over whether those concerns are justified, but you cannot challenge the fact that they have real concerns and that they act upon those concerns at the ballot box.

The Trump candidacy was as much a middle finger to the Republican party establishment as anything else. They sent a message. If Democrats stick our fingers in our ears and say "you're just a bunch of deplorable racists" we're missing the message again. They feel they are being marginalized and left behind. Dismissing them as only hateful racists marginalizes them and therefore proves them right. We can't act like they don't have concerns.

I'm not a Trump supporter. I voted for Hillary. But we Democrats aren't going to win in 2018 or 2020 or beyond by dismissing the concerns of Trump voters. We need to address them, and address them honestly.

[AE Bravo]

Yall have been finessed by a con artist, plain and simple.

Very smart people!

[HopAlongBunny]

Yall have been finessed by a con artist, plain and simple.

Too accurate Too true

[Montmorency]

People are too shy to admit they like Nazism in a phone conversation

I think it's rather that they weren't responding to the polls in the first place. The fascists were already very vocal in their support. The Trump surge owes a good deal to a disengaged and disheartened 'shadow electorate', not to shy Nazis.

[rajpoot]

Considering the limited length and breadth of his knowledge, I always assumed that even if Trump did win he'll be more of a figurehead rather than anything else while more sensible heads below him do all the actual work.
Let's hope it's so.

[Xiahou]

I'd like it if one of the takeaways of this election is that money != win. Clinton massively out-raised and out-spent Trump.... and lost. Perhaps it's more important to have a message that appeals to voters rather than spending buckets of cash on over-produced campaign ads?

Having not been a Trump supporter, I'm going to try to remain cautiously optimistic and give Trump the benefit of the doubt until he shows otherwise. I did the same thing for Obama after the 2008 hopey/changey election. I hoped he would be the post-partisan president that he claimed he would be.... and he wasn't. Let's see what Trump does.

Edit: I just watched Trump's victory speech and... it wasn't terrible. Probably the most humble I've heard him.

[Strike For The South]

Yall have been finessed by a con artist, plain and simple.

Very smart people!

lol. You people still don't get it.

[Gilrandir]

I sincerely hope that once Trump xenophobic wallbuilder sexist is the POTUS, things will not turn out as bad as i fear they will.

Do you really?

Bing bing bong bong, just good that this doesn't affect me at all.
I hope he withdraws from NATO, that way we can also disband the EU and......
ALL HAIL COMRADE PUTIN!
Did you hear that Steven Seagal was given Russian citizenship by Putin?

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[Kagemusha]

Do you really?

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Last time "the working man" started giving the finger to the establishment and started voting and following en masse for the populists, humanity got wonderful establishments like communist and fascist regimes.

What i am afraid of is that Trump wants to make state level deals and appeal to his voting base, he will indeed pull US out of Europe. In a way that is rather self deserving for Europe, for relying to US for so long.

The thing is that once US will be out Euros are going to understand that Russia has become a real threat more so with Brexit. I think at that point the "elite" politicians will have to make room for the more patriotic and populist candidates as well in countries like France and Germany in order to proper issue the threats that are looming. At that point maybe we will all be ready yet again at another round of World War. I sincerely hope not, but remains to be seen.

[Montmorency]

Well, uh, Kage here's an interesting article on why Finland only cooperates with NATO rather than joining it.

As for the election, looking now I can't help but notice that, despite any loss at all of Pennslyvania-Wisconsin-Michigan being more than just embarrassing for a Democrat candidate, the losses were narrow, around 1%, even 0.3% in Michigan. This might insulate the upper echelons from the urge to reform, if they can rationalize based on the absolute fact of narrow margin there.

For a D candidate it was nearly a bad showing everywhere, even inspiring more NYC metro citizens to vote R - over a million - than since Reagan's time.

[Andres]

What i am afraid of is that Trump wants to make state level deals and appeal to his voting base, he will indeed pull US out of Europe. In a way that is rather self deserving for Europe, for relying to US for so long.

The thing is that once US will be out Euros are going to understand that Russia has become a real threat more so with Brexit. I think at that point the "elite" politicians will have to make room for the more patriotic and populist candidates as well in countries like France and Germany in order to proper issue the threats that are looming. At that point maybe we will all be ready yet again at another round of World War. I sincerely hope not, but remains to be seen.

The people I talked to today about this election all said the very same thing you are saying here.

We have been relying too much on the US to protect us for way too long.

But I doubt the current bunch of idiots running the show here in Europe will understand this in time.

[Crandar]

I told you Donald was going to win. People are too shy to admit they like Nazism in a phone conversation and it is really awkward that the poll companies have not yet grasped that simple fact. Now only if Admiral Kuznetsov purges today the Islamofascists of W. Aleppo in an orgy of red fire, then Charles Lister may finally decide to stop being a waste of oxygen.