POTUS Election thread

[Greyblades]

If anything he would be serving his own interests. Dont kid yourself how he wont be corrupt. The difference is that he will just serve his own interests when he is in office. While he might be forced to leave his companies once he becomes president, dont think that he wont go back to those companies after he leaves office.

As I clarified in my edit I meant he would be less likely to be swayed by big business; He's a multi-billionaire that barely anyone could afford to bribe and he likely wouldn't care if they tried as he's set for life regardless, whereas with Hillary its basically predetermined she will take lobbyist donations by the truckload. That's not even getting into the fact that Trump is unlikely to toe the party line as I'm pretty sure he doesn't care about his political career outside the oval office.

And the large number of Trumps debacles proves the same thing. Look up Trump University.

Did trump university put state secrets into servers located in a loft apartment' bathroom?

He said some pretty terrible things about Hispanic immigrants, and Trump supporters invoked his name when beating up a homeless Hispanic man. Dont delude yourself how Trump is any better than Hillary. If anything he is worse.

Trump is not responsible for the actions of everyone who claim to support him and I frankly don't consider what he said about Hispanic immigrants all that important in gauging his ability.

[Montmorency]

Still waiting on http://www.americanrhetoric.com/spee...yplongking.htm

[Sarmatian]

As I clarified in my edit I meant he would be less likely to be swayed by big business; He's a multi-billionaire that barely anyone could afford to bribe

It's not about money, it's about power and influence.

What is the difference between 1 and 5bn? What can't you buy for 1bn? Can you actually spend it? Unless you want to form your own army and conquer yourself a piece of Africa, there is no difference between 1, 5 or 500bn. And yet, they always want more.

It would be interesting to see if it ends up Trump vs. Sanders. That would be priceless.

[Greyblades]

It's not about money, it's about power and influence.

Considering he's be the president, I dont see anyone being any more capable of swaying him with power and influence than they would money.

What is the difference between 1 and 5bn? What can't you buy for 1bn?

Can you actually spend it? Unless you want to form your own army and conquer yourself a piece of Africa, there is no difference between 1, 5 or 500bn. And yet, they always want more.

Do they? All of them? I'm getting the feeling you don't know many rich people outside of those who end up in the newspapers.

It would be interesting to see if it ends up Trump vs. Sanders. That would be priceless.

Yup.

[Hooahguy]

As I clarified in my edit I meant he would be less likely to be swayed by big business; He's a multi-billionaire that barely anyone could afford to bribe and he likely wouldn't care if they tried as he's set for life regardless, whereas with Hillary its basically predetermined she will take lobbyist donations by the truckload. That's not even getting into the fact that Trump is unlikely to toe the party line as I'm pretty sure he doesn't care about his political career outside the oval office.

Oh I dont disagree that Clinton wouldnt be in the hands of big business. I just dont think that Trump is immune. Rather, he would be in the hands of his own businesses so suit his interests once he gets out.

Did trump university put state secrets into servers located in a loft apartment' bathroom?

As bad as being investigated and possibly charged for illegal business practices that cheated thousands of people out of money in a scam I would say.

Besides, I think the whole email scandal is making mountains out of molehills. Nothing illegal was done from what Ive read. Poor judgement, yes. Compromising national security? Possibly. Was anything actually compromised? That's still being determined, but from what I have read, there is no evidence that it was.

Trump is not responsible for the actions of everyone who claim to support him and I frankly don't consider what he said about Hispanic immigrants all that important.

I disagree. You are, to a degree, responsible for the actions you influence. And while you might not consider the racist things that he said about Hispanic immigrants important, it sure is for a lot of others, especially considering that Hispanics make up a rather large section of the US.

[Greyblades]

Money always shields from money? No. Can? Yes.

Trump's not gonna be swayed by any sum lower than several hundred million and as samaritan said "What is the difference between 1 and 5bn? What can't you buy for 1bn?"
I also take Trump's ego into account as I believe that most everything will boil down to trump saying "I want to do this and I don't have a particular need for more money so I'm gonna do it. Halliburton/JPMorgan/Exxon/whatever big company who objects can suck it." Which would be a big improvement over the last few presidents.

Oh I dont disagree that Clinton wouldnt be in the hands of big business. I just dont think that Trump is immune. Rather, he would be in the hands of his own businesses so suit his interests once he gets out.

Maybe, perhaps even probably but I don't see him reneging or delaying a campaign promise due to outside pressure like Obama has or bending over backwards for big buisness like bush. His platform might not be all that nice to contemplate but I do believe that he will follow through on most if not all of his promises, a belief that I cant remember ever holding about any other major politician.

As bad as being investigated and possibly charged for illegal business practices that cheated thousands of people out of money in a scam I would say.

Besides, I think the whole email scandal is making mountains out of molehills. Nothing illegal was done from what Ive read. Poor judgement, yes. Compromising national security? Possibly. Was anything actually compromised? That's still being determined, but from what I have read, there is no evidence that it was.

Well the illegality of Clinton's operations isn't what I'm most interested in it's the incompetence she showed, in a time of cyber warfare a candidate for the presidency of the united states should not be so deficient in the area of cyber security as to give sensitive information to such a ramshackle IT company.

Basically it does not give me confidence in her competency.

I disagree. You are, to a degree, responsible for the actions you influence. And while you might not consider the racist things that he said about Hispanic immigrants important, it sure is for a lot of others, especially considering that Hispanics make up a rather large section of the US.

I'm not entirely convinced that he so much racist against Hispanics as he is paranoid against first generation Mexican immigrants, regardless of that distinction I do not think it is a significant factor in determining his competence; I really don't think he will act specifically against the interests of native Hispanics or anyone who arrived before 2010.

[Hooahguy]

I'm not entirely convinced that he so much racist against Hispanics as he is paranoid against first generation Mexican immigrants, regardless of that distinction I do not think it is a significant factor in determining his competence.

I gotta run to class so I cant do a full response but I will ask you this: if someone called Jewish immigrants thieves coming to take money away from non-Jews, would that not be antisemitism?

The President is the face of the nation in international affairs. Would you really want Trump representing the US? What if he has to meet with the leaders of Central and South America? I will wager that he wont be regarded kindly.

[Husar]

The President is the face of the nation in international affairs. Would you really want Trump representing the US?

Greyblades is British, be careful.

[AE Bravo]

I can't believe this idiot is still running.

This idiot grew up in NY in the 80s, his corruption is practically in Sammy the Bull's book from what I hear too. You know somewhere down the line this guy was in bed with the mafia, how many family businesses has this real snake agent stiffed? Feds probably have their files and as soon as this guy moves up EEEeeeehrhrrrr where the $$ at Trump. In b4 cops go super-saiyan under this clown.

Get this crook out of here. Calling people who crossed the border thieves when his wives had to do nasty things to get citizenship.

[Veho Nex]

I know where trump stands. Hillary scares me because if she takes power she doesn't strike me as the person to give it up. If she won a second term at the end she'd campaign for President4Lyfe.

I want Sanders to win. I stand by the majority of what he stands for and if enough people feel that way he may win.




Anyone but Clinton and I mean that.