Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
What exactly makes you angry about what I said?
That I have sympathy for people who were born in squalor, corruption and violence?
Wouldn't that include a whole lot of our own ancestors?

I don't forbid anyone from building walls, I just think it's a stupid, superficial, heartless, xenophobic idea borne out of selfishness that does not solve the root of the problem at all, it only puts one more obstacle into the way of desperate people. The Spanish built three very high fences around Melilla and people still try to climb them. They also send people back illegally and have the Morrocan police beat them up and people still try to get in.

As for undocumented fortune seekers, as I said before, trying to make things go your way, having goals and following them ruthlessly, even being stupid as a teenager are things which are cherished in our culture until someone poor from outside our culture gets the same idea, then they're greedy criminals...

You know, there are simple ways to start, such as paying a price for coffee that does not require what's basically slave labor...
But "the market" being the way it is makes it okay I guess.
Did you know Mexico has a democratic government that Mexicans can participate in. Did you know that (like Trump says) Carrier among other companies have moved their production into Mexico.

Your view of Mexicans is very condescending, as if they have no agency and no real choice but to live in their current conditions. In fact, Mexico is suffering in part due to their own choices. Some heroic and commendable (like the government deciding to wage war against the cartels) others, not so much.