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    So Kasich didn't really get one third of the vote in Utah, but he beat Trump there, alright.

    According to current numbers, Sanders got 57 delegates to Clinton's 51, which won't cut it for the Bern in the long run (he needs to win more than 60% of the remaining delegates on average).
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    Apparently this is doing a wave on Facebook -
    http://theantimedia.org/wikileaks-dr...b-censored-it/

    Probably something @Myth and @Fisherking are more familar with?
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    According to the NYT overview, there are 546 delegates up for grabs in California. Clinton's current lead is 303 delegates according to the same page. That would mean Sanders would only need 55.49% of the candidates in California in order to close the current gap between him and Clinton.

    The latest poll shows Clinton being ahead in California by 7 percent (48-41), though; so it might not be realistic for him to pull that off.

    Even so, Sanders might be able to narrow that gap significantly before California.

    In sum, I'd say that it's way too early to assume that Clinton will win the nomination.
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    Im pretty sure that I recall reading that he would need at least 60% of each remaining contest going forward to pull off the nomination.
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    Looks like NYT might have included superdelegates in the 546 count (475 without?), so then it is ~ 64%.
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    Calling Washington for Birdie Sanders with a big margin.

    This could be a big day for Sanders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Apparently this is doing a wave on Facebook -
    http://theantimedia.org/wikileaks-dr...b-censored-it/

    Probably something @Myth and @Fisherking are more familar with?
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    Seems like there is a new scandal developing: http://mic.com/articles/139052/berni...ial#.iWELFngi4

    "I think the media is purposely trying to portray Bernie as a white person's candidate in order to stop his growing support in the black community," Brisport, a black actor and SAT prep tutor, said. "I helped register over 200 college students to vote in Brooklyn last week. Mostly black and Latino. Overwhelming in support of Sanders. C'mon."

    The frustrated rallied together under the hashtag #BernieMadeMeWhite, wondering what about their vote suddenly turned them white.
    http://usuncut.com/politics/berniema...-is-hilarious/

    Two of the last three states Bernie Sanders won by landslide margins — Alaska and Hawaii — are also very ethnically diverse. One-third of Alaska’s population is Native American, Asian, Black, Pacific Islander, or of mixed race. And three-fourths of Hawaii’s population is made up of people of color, with nearly 50 percent being Asian.

    Furthermore, Washington State ranks among the ten most ethnically diverse states in the country. But this didn’t stop cable media pundits from belittling Bernie Sanders’ victories by falsely claiming that the populations of those states are mostly white in order to justify the false narrative that the Vermont senator is unable to connect to nonwhite voters.
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    This last image is intriguing, although I can't seem to access a higher resolution version to read what CNN actually wrote.


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    It really annoys me that twitter doesn't let you upload larger size images. I took a US government class a couple of semesters ago and the professor told us that just 5 companies own most of the media outlets here. I imagine Bernie's policies run counter to corporate interests so I guess it's not surprising that the media would be biased against him.

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    Bernie Sanders is unlikely to secure the nomination, whereas all of the delegate numbers favor Clinton. Source

    Assuming that Sanders gets all of the currently un-committed super-delegates, he would pick up another 210. He would still need to capture 1,172 of the remaining 1,833 delegates or 63.93%. So far, Sanders has only been able to manufacture delegate wins of that size in 3 states, 4 if you count New Hampshire. NONE of those wins came in a contest worth more than 35 delegates. In other words, the proportional primary process means that Sanders probably cannot win big enough to beat Clinton even if he wins all of the remaining contests because he will not win big enough to get to 64%.

    His only real hope is to beat Clinton the rest of the way by 55% or so and then convince the currently committed to Clinton super-delegates to change their minds. This is possible, but strongly improbable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    His only real hope is to beat Clinton the rest of the way by 55% or so and then convince the currently committed to Clinton super-delegates to change their minds. This is possible, but strongly improbable.
    Indeed.

    Nevertheless, he needs to keep the pressure on Clinton. He already forced her to the left on many issues. I never liked Clinton, and after watching her against Sanders, I think I'd despise her if I was an American democrat supporter.

    She's the prototype career politician, not interested in anything but getting her butt in a chair. In fact, only person worthy of similar contempt is Donald Trump.

    A question - how come it says there 101 delegate in Washington, but than it says Bernie 25 and Hillary 9? What happened with the rest?

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