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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Sure, just remember that Kerry is no George Marshall.
    But Kerry won't have to deal with Ernest King and Douglas MacArthur. Did Nimitz have an ego as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    But Kerry won't have to deal with Ernest King and Douglas MacArthur. Did Nimitz have an ego as well?
    While it is fair to say that Nimitz was great commander who had the nerve (ego) to gamble, he was pretty straightforward according to most. King did NOT suffer fools gladly but was apparently persuadable with good arguments. MacArthur was a piece of work -- the SW Pacific was the only theater command to have a Supreme Headquarters and a Supreme Commander. Fortunately, MacArthur was a pretty decent strategic commander -- even if he never approached being as good as he thought he was.
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    This election lost most of its humor when Jeb! left.
    Are you kidding? The last few weeks of his campaign was downright tragic, it's a miracle Jeb hasnt been found dangling from the rafters yet.
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    boris johnson + donald trump = owen wilson

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    Nate Silver blew the call on the primary and is trying to regain his mojo on the election:

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ing-president/
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    Nate Silver got too invested in his own vision of how the primaries should look.

    This is yet another lesson that the math is only as reliable as the judgement of the man behind it.


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    The Trump has ascended to heights never dreamed!

    Now a Marvel super villain:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...amn-idiot.html
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    I suppose it could be worse, it could be written by the idiot behind female thor.
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    FBI report on Clinton's emails/classified information leaks has determined that she knowingly used a private email server to send/discuss/receive classified material and ended up compromising the emails of other government officials as well, including 110 separate messages that were found by the investigation but were not reported by Clinton in her earlier "final" release.

    For similar negligence, my defense contractor employee wife would very likely have been prosecuted and would certainly have been immediately fired and black-listed from clearance-centric employment.

    The FBI Director assures us that no reasonable prosecutor would pursue charges, so this can now just all go away. Back to the usual political bloodsport and media buy bonanza.
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    Being better than the worst does not inherently make you good. But being better than the rest lets you brag.


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    The Clintons have cashed in on all their political favors. It's sad but not surprising. She was never going to be indited. I do admit, her tenacity is only matched by her lack of moral scruples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    The Clintons have cashed in on all their political favors. It's sad but not surprising. She was never going to be indited. I do admit, her tenacity is only matched by her lack of moral scruples.
    ...Lucius Cornelius Sulla Dictator was too...wish it were still historical rather than current
    "The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman

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    Just be glad you dont have the intertwining of millitary and governance as the Republic of Cicero's had.

    See this is some of what I miss from the old days of this forum: the historical comparison to times before the colonial age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    ...Lucius Cornelius Sulla Dictator was too...wish it were still historical rather than current
    4 more years of Obama won't be too bad. Her end game is getting there, not so much sweeping change. Which I suppose, or rather hope, will lead to pragmatic decision making.

    Other than the extra judicial droning of foreign nationals without those sovereign states consent. It is funny what you can learn to live with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    The Clintons have cashed in on all their political favors. It's sad but not surprising. She was never going to be indited. I do admit, her tenacity is only matched by her lack of moral scruples.
    Over time, you learn that the suitability of a national leader isn't ethics, but intelligence, or at least the ability to avoid the most stupid mistakes that can offer themselves. That was the lesson I learned from Iraq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Over time, you learn that the suitability of a national leader isn't ethics, but intelligence, or at least the ability to avoid the most stupid mistakes that can offer themselves. That was the lesson I learned from Iraq.
    Intelligence isn't really a guarantee, especially if pride is involved. Moreover, how would you measure this intelligence? Smarter than Drumpf?
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    Well Trump is officially the GOP nominee. If you listen closely you can hear the weeping of the GOP establishment.

    Also Melania Trump plagiarized a part of her speech from a speech Michelle Obama did in 2008. In a strange twist, the Trump campaign then blamed it on Hillary.

    In an unexpected twist, there doesnt seem to be any real violence outside the convention hall like everyone (including me) was predicting. Not yet anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    4 more years of Obama won't be too bad. Her end game is getting there, not so much sweeping change. Which I suppose, or rather hope, will lead to pragmatic decision making.

    Other than the extra judicial droning of foreign nationals without those sovereign states consent. It is funny what you can learn to live with.
    I'm minded to agree with you that she would not deviate far from the path followed by the current administration. She wants the power, not a "revolution." My problem with this is that I don't agree with the current administration's policies very often either, so more of the same is not appealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    I'm minded to agree with you that she would not deviate far from the path followed by the current administration. She wants the power, not a "revolution." My problem with this is that I don't agree with the current administration's policies very often either, so more of the same is not appealing.
    I agree. If nukes weren't a thing, I may consider throwing Trump a bone. My greatest hope for this election cycle now is Hiliary getting so flustered, she self incriminates.
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    What little I have caught of it has been in keeping with the Trump campaign.
    Hate, Fear, the need for a Strong Leader; what little I have heard about the platform seems to follow the same lines.
    Melania's speech, while obviously lifted from Michelle Obama, was a welcome break from the paranoia and rage of the other speakers.
    Disappointing so far, in the sense that NASCAR w/o a truly spectacular crash is a waste of time :p
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    Obviously she doesn't write anything on her own like she says. Watching that comparison video was like someone yelling to Europe and Europe yelling back.

    A bit curious on what her cause would be as first lady.

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    Remember when I said Samantha Bee was doing good work? I choose not to.

    God, I miss John Stewart.
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    So - we have a choice between repeatedly Bankrupt Trump and totally unsafe Hilary?

    Errr...

    Can we have Bill back? of either of the Bushes?
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    I still dont get that, how is he a billionaire if he went bankrupt multiple times?
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    I dont think he personally went bankrupt, just his business ventures.
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    Is that unusual for a billionaire to have failed ventures?
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    No idea. I mean in all those motivational speeches you hear that those super successful businessmen have failed on their path to success so Im guessing its not that rare?

    Also Cruz snubbing Trump last night was glorious. I dont like that guy very much but kudos on him.
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