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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    As I see it Trump is really apolitical, and has very little patience with those who are not. Especially now that the truly scary Hillary, false, fake, backed and funded by really dubious people, is the democrat's choice I really hope that Trump is going to win
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    NATO is probably the most successful military alliance in history because there wasnt doubt about if allies would come to the aid of others allies when attacked.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_War

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_War

    Don't bother quoting the articles, I know what they say.
    Do you?

    Article 6 of the The North Atlantic Treaty:

    For the purpose of Article 5, an armed attack on one or more of the Parties is deemed to include an armed attack:


    • on the territory of any of the Parties in Europe or North America, on the Algerian Departments of France 2, on the territory of or on the Islands under the jurisdiction of any of the Parties in the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer;


    • on the forces, vessels, or aircraft of any of the Parties, when in or over these territories or any other area in Europe in which occupation forces of any of the Parties were stationed on the date when the Treaty entered into force or the Mediterranean Sea or the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer.
    This also means that if Hawaii was attacked it wouldnt trigger Article 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    Do you?
    Article 6 of the The North Atlantic Treaty:
    This also means that if Hawaii was attacked it wouldnt trigger Article 5.
    Leaving our greatest ally of the last century out to dry over a bit legalese. SAD. I can see why the Europeans don't want to live up to their end of the bargain.

    Not only will all of continental Europe cease to exist when the shooting match starts but we won't support you over your sovereign territory. We are truly the best ally.

    This election is hard for me. I hate Hillary but I REALLY hate Russians. What's a boy to do?
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    "Out to dry" is a bit extreme language is it not? The US might not have sent troops, but the US did give military equipment and weaponry to the UK. And a carrier was offered should the UK lose theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    This election is hard for me. I hate Hillary but I REALLY hate Russians. What's a boy to do?
    I won't vote for either. I'll probably vote for Gary Johnson. I'm not a big fan of his, but he seems less slimy than Trump or Hillary and it'd be nice to see a viable 3rd party. I hope he gets into the debates at least....

    I'm really tired of the notion that we only have Democrats or Republicans to choose from- like that's they way it has to be. The parties are not government entities nor are they defined in the Constitution. We don't need them. People tell me "By not voting for Trump, you're supporting Hillary!". Yes, but by not voting for Hillary, I'm also supporting Trump by the same logic- so they should cancel out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    I won't vote for either. I'll probably vote for Gary Johnson. I'm not a big fan of his, but he seems less slimy than Trump or Hillary and it'd be nice to see a viable 3rd party. I hope he gets into the debates at least....
    Unfortunately it will take more than just one or even two elections to make a third party viable, as we saw with Ross Perot. Right now it seems like the Libertarian party only has 4 state-level seats, and a party needs a strong state and local level base to remain viable in the long term.
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