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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    You're right, it's much worse. You are using the tired logic that "Hillary is worse" and "everything will work out" if Trump is elected. Everything regarding Trump with you is an endless string of ifs. None of them will come to pass because the man involved is incapable of accepting criticism, or even disagreement, of any kind.
    So you cant call it bad logic, just tired? Everything regarding Hillary is it'self underlined by the grand if: "If hillary turns out to not actually be the Ceasare Borgia, without talent, the last 20 years showed her to be"

    Worst case scenario is that trump is exactly as unpleasant as his outward appearance is making himself out to be and because he will never have the support in the rest of government he physically cannot become a Bush level disaster. With Hillary that is the best case scenario, because if the democrats win she will have the support, and signs point to being worse than Bush.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    "Make your point". I made my argument on this forum and used the videos to put weight behind each point I made, you kept referring to a video, apparantly thinking it would magically change people's minds, but wouldnt even link to it. Your behavior gave the appearance that you lacked of confidence in your ability to make the argument and wanted us to see the same thing that made you think that way, while simultaniously not having the confidence in the video to link it.

    See whenever I see say lizardo putting videos without even giving context I dont expect good things, when you make allusions to a video you couldnt be bothered to link to I expect even less.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    So you are placing all your faith in the Senate then? That's gutsy.
    Not exactly, see the way I see it I'm putting my faith in eery politician on capitol hill mistrusting trump enough to never risk putting the red button in his hands, that is a sure bet. With hillary I'd have to put my faith in the senate not switching democrat and becoming hillary's lapdog, kinda more risky

    That fellow sounds quite daft.
    No that fellow had been given bad/simple information.

    He had gotten into his head that nukes were like global warming, "the more nukes we set off the worse the world gets and after a point it becomes uninhabitable, forever" Whereas the truth was "the simultanious explosions of thousands of nuclear devices over America, Europe and Russia would put so much dust and debris into the atmosphere as to blot out sunlight over a majority of the world's surface for a long period of time that combined with the radiation that would poison farmland means that anyone who survived the initial detonations and subsesquent widespread radiation poisoning would likely starve as clean food production becomes nigh impossible. The World's ecosystem might recover but it would take far, far longer than humanity could reasonably be expected to last with agriculture being practically impossible."

    What? He is not a child nor does he have a learning disability that we know of. I've had classes in university which went three times as long where I had to comprehend just as difficult material as this and my classmates and I were fine. This shouldn't be an issue for a normal person. Plus a president needs to learn and comprehend information quickly so he can made effective and rational decisions about a situation. Its part of the job and he might not even have an hour. Carson had this same issue and it torpedoed him.
    This is the issue of not having an actual record of the conversation, was he having problems comprehending or was he, say, going through a list of scenarios.
    eg:
    "Allright it is clear I have some misconceptions on nuclear strategy, Let's start with you explaining why we cant use nukes on china or russia."
    "Because China and Russia's capacity to fire back makes that too risky, calling the bluff."
    "Ok so I do have that right, now explain cant we use nukes on one of thier puppets like north korea."
    "Because It's so close to China that they might take issue with us using nukes right next to it and intervene"
    "Ok making sense, now explain why cant we use nukes on a non nuclear state with no nuclear protector like argentina"
    Etc

    Obviously Trump wouldnt be so polite/coherent.

    Now if you wanna talk about what a mess of his campaign he's been making making over the last week, I'll gladly join in. Dude needs that intervention desperately.
    Last edited by Greyblades; 08-05-2016 at 18:54.
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